Psychotropic Drugs in Religious Rituals

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Chris you sure must be caught in a crack over you saying "what if you were going to kill yourself." Even you know that you stepped in it. Stop making your pleas, and just go get saved.

You're obfuscating to avoid answering the question, yet again.

If someone read your position on this thread and gave up their psychotropic meds, and something terrible happened... wouldn't you be morally responsible to some degree?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

If they followed you and what you are saying they would smoke a bag, and be as messed up as you are currently.

Actually, I already specified what I advise in post #139 (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=139).

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

You're obfuscating to avoid answering the question, yet again.

If someone read your position on this thread and gave up their psychotropic meds, and something terrible happened... wouldn't you be morally responsible to some degree?

Something terrible wouldn't happen, because if they read my position they would seek what that position was. Which was getting the Holy Ghost.

That's pretty clear.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Actually, I already specified what I advise in post #139 (http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=139).

Your above advise, came way after the post fond below.

What you posted below was a life changing conversation complements of a bag of weed.

Chris, you need Jesus and His Holy Ghost.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Now, imagine smoking legally prescribed cannabis and while a high is produced that lasts four or so hours, for the next 4 days, you feel sound and balanced. No nervous shaking, cold sweats, anxiety attacks, violent impulses, nightmares, racing thoughts, intrusive memories, or thoughts of suicide. In fact, compared to how your mind felt prior to smoking, you feel clear as a bell. Calm as rock. For four days. On day five, you detect an instance of racing thoughts, but it fades quickly. Day 6, the racing thoughts begin to come back, subtle anxiety is setting in again. Your mind feels clouded as it did prior to smoking. Nightmares might return at this time. And so, you now know your threshold... four days. So you smoke a little cannabis every four days before bed... for six months... and during that period... everyone who knows you wants to know what happened because now your actually talking to them and interacting normally. Your kids say, "Mom and dad don't fight like they used to.", "I'm not afraid of dad anymore.", "Dad doesn't scream and break things like before.", and your performance at work increases. Your love life returns to normal... it's like you get your entire life back.

[Amanah]

Aquila I have a question for you. You have been having this same conversation in one form or another for over a year. Why do you keep going there? Surely you don't expect for someone who lives by faith and believes God for healing, and preaches this to back up and suddenly say, "ok Chris, you are right, smoke some weed"

[Tithesmeister]

EB, I'm going to dodge the bullets and bayonets and step in long enough to ask one question about the OP. Since you have an interest in drugs and religion and how they interact, do you have any knowledge of freemasonry and the Illuminati in regards to using drugs to reach a higher level of enlightenment?

I'm going to duck back into the bunker. I'll watch for your response, just in case you don't get mortally wounded. Oh, not to exclude you Aquila, you seem to be knowledgeable as well. I'd be interested in hearing from y'all.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

EB, I'm going to dodge the bullets and bayonets and step in long enough to ask one question about the OP. Since you have an interest in drugs and religion and how they interact, do you have any knowledge of freemasonry and the Illuminati in regards to using drugs to reach a higher level of enlightenment?

I'm going to duck back into the bunker. I'll watch for your response, just in case you don't get mortally wounded. Oh, not to exclude you Aquila, you seem to be knowledgeable as well. I'd be interested in hearing from y'all.

No.

[Evang.Benincasa]

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Your above advise, came way after the post fond below.

What you posted below was a life changing conversation complements of a bag of weed.

Chris, you need Jesus and His Holy Ghost.

All of this is in the context of taking a prescribed or legal medication to help with symptoms of a given condition. Supernatural healing is available only through Jesus. I don't mean to give the impression that it isn't, or that we shouldn't seek it.

So please, stop trying to make it look like I don't believe in healing or that I don't believe we should seek healing. I'm only talking about treating symptoms medically until one receives that healing should it tarry.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Something terrible wouldn't happen, because if they read my position they would seek what that position was. Which was getting the Holy Ghost.

That's pretty clear.

Amen. Seeking the Holy Ghost is far far more important, for it is to the salvation of the soul.

I was under the impression that you'd condemn taking any medication, directing them to seek supernatural healing only. I believe we should seek healing before all else. But should healing tarry, I see no issue with taking medication or treating symptoms naturally.