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Old 06-25-2018, 04:31 PM
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Re: Saved Without A Pastor??

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I know you might not accept what I'm going to say here, but working together with others isn't as what we would read on paper. the Apostle Paul had this to say about it to the young evangelist 2 Timothy 1:15, 2 Timothy 4:10-16. He writes more about it to the Corinthian eldership 2 Corinthians 1:8. But working with elders, and experiencing all sorts of attitudes and latitudes when someone who has never rode a bull for 8 seconds it's hard to relay to them actually what it is like. I loved to watch bull riding. Watch it, mind you. I never got on one. I lived in Arcadia Florida and watched the rodeo. But when you walk up to a bull, and see its size, watch one jump straight up in a chute with a poor soul on its back holding only a rope. Well, brother, it is one sobering view. Would I climb on when I was given the offer?
No, I don't think so. Because there are so many levels to consider. Getting behind a pulpit, isn't the beginning, and it isn't the end. I know, I know, we hold all these scriptures in our hands and take off running, then slam them down on the pastor's office desk and shout "eureka" I found it. Well, that old bull rider sitting down behind that desk has wore out a lot of angry bulls. But a lot of angry bulls have done the same to him, his wife, and his children.

Like I said, I love watching bull riding, but I never rode one, and my time is long gone to ever try to.

Brothers, elders, pastors, prophets, teachers, evangelists, apostles, missionaries have done some incredibly hard heavy lifting.





Church of Christless eldership would not be a Tithmister's cup of tea. Just from what little I have read of your posts. You wouldn't fly under their sky. Collegial leadership is in the church which holds the name PRESBYTERIANS. They my good brother are the worst as an example of colliegial eldership.

John Calvin roasted one of his ministers because the guy didn't believe in the trinity. Dr D James Kennedy my old ex neighbor here in Fort Lauderdale remained in the pulpit until he was half dead. Because he was a superstar, and they couldn't find a replacement. Listen bro, it all looks good on paper, it all looks great when we type our little fingers on our worn clean keyboards.
We sit back and say, buy that all sounds so good. But, putting it into practice? Well, that's another journey.



Then there is the rub, so while the neighbors "seem" to be a wonderful loving family. The truth is that in their home, it is a Game Of Thrones. Everyone wants to sit on the Iron Throne. Holy Ghost has to be the one who runs everything. When they picked deacons it was that they were to find men filled with the Holy Ghost. Church of Christless doesn't believe there be any Holy Ghost. So, Tywin Lannister catches the arrow while he sits on the gabinetto.
I know what you say here is true to a large extent. Colorfully and wonderfully spoken.

I probably understand more of what you've said than you realize too.
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