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Old 07-02-2018, 07:00 AM
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Re: Did Jesus Wear Pants?

I present a simple truth, based on my studies:
- Both men and women have have worn trousers and open legged (skirt-like) attire, and robes, in many cultures, since ancient times.
That's just the truth.

But there is almost always a distinction drawn in the attire between men and women, though they be similar in design. These distinctions included cut, fabric, color, and ornamentation.

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Old 07-02-2018, 08:22 PM
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I don't disagree with the fact that men wore the baggy trousers in the ancient world, especially in the royal courts of ancient Babylon and Persia as demonstrated in the text above from the book of Daniel. However, in ancient Babylon and Persia, women also wore a similar type of trouser that differed very little except in fabric and color. The notion that just because this text mentions men wearing trousers means that the women of that culture didn't is jumping to a conclusion that contradicts our knowledge of the culture, and a conclusion that the text doesn't even support.

It was common throughout ancient Near Eastern culture for women to wear very similar baggy trousers made for women.

*The difference is that I showed you where YHVH’s covenant men in the OT were wearing pants, whereas you are appealing to secular society who is not concerned w. adhering to the Deut. 22.5 edict.

*This would be identical to Christian men in Asia saying, “Well, some men in America wear dresses made explicitly for men, so why can’t we?” But, these are obviously not Christian men in America wearing dresses designed for men. Sound conclusions allows these category distinctions to remain intact upon analytical deduction - whether it be the hair issue or apparel doctrines.
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Old 07-02-2018, 10:37 PM
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I don't disagree with the fact that men wore the baggy trousers in the ancient world, especially in the royal courts of ancient Babylon and Persia as demonstrated in the text above from the book of Daniel. However, in ancient Babylon and Persia, women also wore a similar type of trouser that differed very little except in fabric and color. The notion that just because this text mentions men wearing trousers means that the women of that culture didn't is jumping to a conclusion that contradicts our knowledge of the culture, and a conclusion that the text doesn't even support.

It was common throughout ancient Near Eastern culture for women to wear very similar baggy trousers made for women.

Those are pictures of Bedouins, and Muslims from the 1900s.

Sorry, they don't represent first century A.D. Judeans.

1900 years later a lot changed.
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Actually, the pictures are designed to reflect the cultural trends in fashion among the Persians. The style hadn't changed for thousands of years. The "trousers" mentioned in Daniel are reflective of these fashions. My point is, they were worn by both men and women in both Babylon and Persia. So, the Daniel reference isn't a significant point for only men wearing trousers in ancient Persia.

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Those are pictures of Bedouins, and Muslims from the 1900s.

Sorry, they don't represent first century A.D. Judeans.

1900 years later a lot changed.
The following pic depicts the common attire of the Bedouin women between the years 1800 and 1900.


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Old 07-03-2018, 10:41 AM
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Actually, the pictures are designed to reflect the cultural trends in fashion among the Persians. The style hadn't changed for thousands of years. The "trousers" mentioned in Daniel are reflective of these fashions. My point is, they were worn by both men and women in both Babylon and Persia. So, the Daniel reference isn't a significant point for only men wearing trousers in ancient Persia.



The following pic depicts the common attire of the Bedouin women between the years 1800 and 1900.

well at least their modest.
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well at least their modest.
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Actually, the pictures are designed to reflect the cultural trends in fashion among the Persians. The style hadn't changed for thousands of years. The "trousers" mentioned in Daniel are reflective of these fashions. My point is, they were worn by both men and women in both Babylon and Persia. So, the Daniel reference isn't a significant point for only men wearing trousers in ancient Persia.



The following pic depicts the common attire of the Bedouin women between the years 1800 and 1900.


So what Chris, you are talking about people who are living 2,000 years after the fact.You must typically deal with people who know way less than you. Who believe your Google gleaned wisdom.

Bedouins from the 1900s are now what Persian and Babylonians looked like 5,000 years ago. Good job, now go find a church, and a pastor.
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Caitlyn Jenner with 21 year old girlfriend, if they repented and were born again and Caitlyn starting wearing pants could they get married?

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That is his boyfriend. Both “became” women to be lesbians. So, no, they can not get married..
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That is his boyfriend. Both “became” women to be lesbians. So, no, they can not get married..
right, I didn't realize they were both trannies.
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