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10-04-2018, 04:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Roanoke VA
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Re: Public school and the Christian parent
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Originally Posted by Esaias
If someone would like to demonstrate from the Scriptures that Christians are NOT required to ensure their children receive a Christian Bible-based education, I'd be thrilled to discuss it.
If someone would like to demonstrate from the Scriptures that Christians are not guilty of sin by willfully turning their children over to a godless antichristian indoctrinating institution, I'd love to discuss that as well.
If someone would like to demonstrate from the Scriptures that unrepented sin doesn't lead to the lake of fire, I'd like to see that, too.
But so far, the objectors have simply expressed their personal opinions with no Scriptural backing whatsoever. Which is to be expected from unbelievers and atheists, but Christians? I thought Christians were supposed to be "people of the Book"?
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I repeat for scriptural discernment one must consider a text's context to avoid creating a pretext. There are no scriptures that extend into secular curriculum giving parent’s guidance on which educational institution they should attend. As a matter of fact the word education is not in the scriptures. Using your made up construct of Christian Bible-based education is your new vernacular. Another construct; godless antichristian indoctrinating institution, cannot be found in scriptures. Institution cannot be found in scriptures. You cannot make up new terminology and apply it to scriptures. You cannot take your new vernacular terminology and condemn saints to hell. That practice is found in Judaism as a Takkanah. School is only used once in Acts 19:9. Where the Greek word for school is: Strong’s G4981: scholḗ, freedom from labour. You’re manipulating scriptures which are intended towards parents to teach their children the way of the Lord. Your pretext is that this command extends to public schools and higher learning institutions. Your pretext is incorrect because nowhere; I mean nowhere, does scriptures identify schools outside the home or church. The scriptures convey to teach you children in your home. Specifically the ways of righteousness of the truth in the Lord. Not Math, English, History or other areas of study. The burden of proof is on you to prove that this command to teach your children righteousness extends into secular educational subjects that are provided for in the public sector. Almost everyone here has agreed that it’s the parents responsibly to teach their children the truth of God in their homes. Since you and Votivesoul need scriptures, scriptures shall ye receive.
Deuteronomy 6:7 (KJV) And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
Deuteronomy 11:19 (KJV) And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
Extending the command to teach your children the Lord’s precepts into secular curriculum is the same as minister’s arguing on men’s sleeve length. Some will say it is acceptable to wear short sleeves; while others say the sleeve must extend to the elbow, and lastly those who say to your wrist. In the New Testament the churches the taught in their houses. The focus on their teaching was God in Christ, the Gospel, evangelizing and bearing the fruit of the spirit in our lives. Scripture have always been specific to teaching the ways of the Lord. This corresponds to what we found in the Old testament.
Romans 16:5 (KJV) Likewise greet the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
1Corinthians 16:19 The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Colossians 4:15 (KJV) Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
Philemon 1:2 (KJV) And to our beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
1Timothy 3:12 (KJV) Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Consider the language of the New covenant in Jeremiah. We are promised that our Heavenly Father will be a Father to all. He will teach us his ways. The scriptures are clear that we are to teach our children the ways of the Lord. Once we have met that responsibility the child is responsible for their own walk. A child will not be held responsible for the fathers’ sin nor will the father be held responsible for his children choices.
Jeremiah 31: In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. 30 But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge. 31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and wit the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
The scriptures are explicit that children should obey their parents. This solely puts the responsibility for the parent to guide their children in the ways of righteousness. What you are doing is broadening that scope into all educational subjects which is why your pretext is incorrect.
Ephesians 6:1 (KJV) Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Colossians 3:20 (KJV) Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord
Lastly, it is the parent’s responsibility to get their children to obey the Gospel. Once they are born again we have the promise from our Father that he will lead and guide them. He will never leave them nor forsake them, and I put my trust in his word. It is my responsibility to live a Godly life before my children and setting the right example. But I have complete confidence that if given that instruction that the Lord will lead my children by the Holyghost.
Isaiah 54:13 (KJV) And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
Luke 12:12 (KJV For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say.
John 14:26 (KJV) But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Selah
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