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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
What is the alternative? Christ already came? The resurrection already happened?
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Mike? Is it just me? Or do you really stink at what you do?
Forget Mike, because he will never answer the hard questions. The Bible to him (as far as eschatology) is to be cherry picked.
Daniel 11 is turned on its head. By the time you get to 12, he injects his own ideas (of what he was ecclesiastically nursed on in Dispensationalism) into the narrative. By the time you come up with the king of the north and the king of the south, he dissipates into the walls. He honestly doesn't have the slightest idea. If this was Trinitarian verses One God, or to beard or not to beard he would burn down an entire thread, page after page. Listen, if there was no such thing as the internet, social media, civilian access to YouTubes, Mike would be alone.
He would be known as the creepy old religious guy up the block. The one that found a burlap bag shirt at a yard sale and decided to street preach in it.
Thinking it was "sackcloth?"
Mike, alternatives? We aren't making a plan to go to Orlando, and figuring out our options. I'm asking you questions. Since you are RIGHT, since you are PERFECT, then YOU should be able to spoon feed me.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Dom,
To YOU verse 7 does not seem to be referring to verses 1-3. But to ME thats just what it seems to be pointing to! The time of trouble in the time when the man of sin comes into the glorious land. Verse 7 SEEMS to be referring to the time of his reign when he scatters the power of the holy people.
How about in the glorious land of Israel?
Daniel 12:41-45
41He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon. 42He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape. 43But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 44But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Jesus spoke of the desolation of Jerusalem:
Luke 21:20-24
20And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. 21Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. 22For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. 24And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES......is the time, times, and a half the angel mentions to Daniel in chapter 12:7
7And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. |
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
All this is in some far off future? Including Luke 21:20-24? That would necessitate a rebuilt temple complete with working legitimate priesthood?
Please prove this with book, chapter, and verse.  |
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