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Originally Posted by diakonos
Right. But TODAY people still receive the Holy Ghost before baptism.
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Again, no one disputes that. The dispute is with the way you interpret it. You think that person is still lost until he is baptized. You believe that a person can be born of the Spirit but still be dead in sin if he has not been baptized yet. You believe that someone can receive the fullness of the Spirit but at that very moment still be lost and have the full record of her sins still against her if she has not been baptized. It doesn't make sense. Not surprisingly no other group in the history of Christianity has ever believed someone could receive the baptism of the Spirit but at that very moment still be unforgiven.
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