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Old 05-28-2019, 02:32 AM
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Re: History of the Water and Spirit Doctrine

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Just to make sure I understand, you're saying that what Ewart said about the revelation at Arroyo Seco had to do with the Oneness of God?

From what I've read so far is seems like the teaching that connected John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 and considered the new birth, or initial salvation, as a process and not a point in time originated in the 1910s and 1920s and is unique in the history of the Christianity. I am very interested to know if any other groups may have taught this as well.

Since I attend a UPCI church, I am in particular interested in how two organizations (PAJC and PCI) formed a merger though no unanimity existed regarding how Acts 2:38 was to be understood, though all practiced it. (Now there is, officially at any rate, unanimity: the PAJC view has prevailed, that is, the doctrine of water and Spirit. It interests me a great deal that it was not always so.)
I have posted excerpts from newsletters published by Pentecostals prior to the 1913 Arroyo Seco campmeeting demonstrating that many Pentecostals understood receiving the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking with tongues as the initial reception of the Spirit in regeneration. Also, again prior to Arroyo Seco, many did baptise in Jesus name instead of using the trinitarian formula. So the "water and spirit" concept was already floating around Pentecostal circles pretty much from the beginning. Those ideas were argued against by prominent pioneer leaders which proves those ideas existed and were gaining traction.

Further, there is not a single distinctive Protestant doctrine that can be traced historically in continuous fashion from the first century to the present. Nor is there a single distinctively catholic doctrine that can be similarly traced although most catholic doctrines predate any Protestant groups.

But the records DO show that Oneness was at one time the predominant view, that immersion in the name of Jesus of believers (not infants) was at that same time the predominant mode and that baptism was considered at least part of regeneration, that John 3:5 was understood as including water baptism, and that receiving the Holy Spirit was at least near universally understood as an ecstasis with accompanying oral charismata, again during the same period of time. And those records are largely found in the anteNicene writings.
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