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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Sorry Mike,
This is way off.
Rev. 20:5
You have initial salvation happening for thousands of years while the mark of the beast is occuring. The first resurrection is ALWAYS HAPPENING over thousands of years and we are supposed to see THAT.......as THE FIRST RESURRECTION?
You have the first resurrection happening BEFORE the mark of the beast ever happens. This spiritualization takes one FAR from what the text is saying. |
thanks for a kind response to my notes. Now just take a listen to what I have to say about that. It's something I don't think you noticed, because I never noticed it before.
Hold on a bit.
There are several groups of people described in
Revelation 20 in taking part in the first resurrection. John sees people sitting on Thrones before anything is mentioned about the Beast.
They are given judgment before The Souls of them that were beheaded are mentioned.
So the ones on Thrones that were given judgment are a different group of people from The Souls that were beheaded.
So far we have two groups of people. And then he sees people who refuse the mark of the beast.
People given judgment sitting on Thrones refers to people that were already saved and in the first resurrection seated with Jesus Christ in Heavenly places ruling with him.
Those who have been beheaded for Christ are the second group, and it is analogous to John the Baptist being beheaded who stood for all the prophets of the Old Testament and the Old Testament Saints. Law and the prophets were until John, and John is greatest of the prophets. So this is saying that Old Testament Saints who are already dead are now entered into the kingdom upon the atonement made by Jesus when he ascended into heaven. So they're part of the first resurrection of salvation.
Then it's talking about another people who refused the mark of the beast. These are obviously people already saved. They are all in the first resurrection of Salvation.
He saw souls, not bodies raised from graves here.
So, from those who already were given judgment sitting on Thrones, to the second group represented by the beheading speaking of Old Testament Saints or Redeemed by Christ's atonement, and a third group of people who resisted the mark of the beast decades after the church was already born and ruling, we see all these people being in the first resurrection which is salvation.
And they won't taste of the second death which is going into the Lake of Fire. If you're saved you're not going to hell in the Lake of Fire.
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