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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I believe that today, we don't expect everyone to be healed. The Catholic Church is very big on suffering for Christ's sake.
As a matter of fact, many who have posted on this forum including the previous forum don't teach or believe that everyone will be or should be filled with the Holy Spirit/Ghost as the Apostles were. That is false doctrine and it is unbelief. It is also interesting, in that, every single person who holds that belief speaks in tongues or has spoken in tongues. Crazy, IMO.
How does God work in that environment? He finds those who hunger and thirst for righteousness.
I have prayed for myself and have been healed, many times. I have had others pray for me and been healed. I believe in healing. But, I can't make others believe or have any level of faith. It is up to the individual.
Only knowing my experiences, I cannot answer for every person. That is God's business. Otherwise we end up as Job - vascillating between faith and doubt or like his three friends - narcissists thinking we have all the answers.
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I’m going to agree with you. This is my personal belief right now, if others don’t believe it, your more than welcome to your own set of faith.
Actually, n-David and myself talked about this a couple months ago or so. And we talked about why those that come for prayer do not get the healing they need. I said what I have been told and that is they must’ve not of had faith! N-David said he believes that was a cop out, and that really stuck with for the past couple months. I just spend a couple days with my Elder who in my opinion is a pioneer of faith, he preached all over the world, he has seen many miracles, preached crusades with other great pioneers of the faith. And as I sat with him in a motel room and his body completely shutting down on him, kidneys wont function properly, heart operating at only 30%, he still has the strength to talk about how good God has been. I was there for a couple hours and as we talked about the goodness of God right before my eyes his whole presence changed, and from when I walked in the hotel room to when I left it was like night from day. He felt better, he was moving around, matter of fact he’s driving 1400 miles to teach his grandson a bible study. God is good!
I said that to say, that elder taught me something I will hold on to by the grace of God. We talked about healing, we talked about why so many today are not receiving their healing. And I told him what I believe and in his kind way he directed me to a more perfect way. He directed me in this way of faith,
James 5:14 KJVS
Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
James 5:15 KJVS
And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
First off, its the individual with the issue of sickness to call for the elder of the church. I read in a book by a pioneer of Pentecost said the faith you have to come up to the platform is faith enough to heal you!
After the individual asks for prayer its now up to the individual doing the prayer. I can anoint him, I can call on the name of the Lord, and if I don't have faith then that individual will not get there healing. It’s on the ministry or the individual being called on in prayer to have the faith that God can heal.
There are two reasons why where not getting the healing we have been promised.
1- There is no faith from the individual praying the prayer
2- The individual with the issue of sickness is being afflicted
James 5:13 KJVS
Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
If your sickness is an affliction from God, God is trying to get your attention. Then it doesn’t say call for the elders, it says let that person pray.
I will never be the same again. As part of the body its my responsibility to be available to the spirit. When the need is there we can respond through the Holy Ghost. It’s not ability its all about availability.
Don’t lose your desire to see the miracles of the Bible! Jesus said, “greater works” I understand he could’ve been talking about a soul receiving the Holy Ghost. Yet, as we come to God as a little child we need to still have that belief that as the church, as an individual with the power of the Holy Ghost we can be used in miracles. We cannot limit the spirit, we cannot limit years ago to today. We need to know as long as there is a need, God will use an individual, those of us that have the Holy Ghost, is the same spirit Paul had, its the same spirit Peter had, its the same spirit John had as they were boiling him in the pot. We have that! Through your prayer of faith you can speak peace into a situation, you can pray for the blinded eyes and they will open. We can speak to a demon and they will be casted out, we can see the dead raised to life.
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