The "Light Doctrine"

[Bro Flame]

Originally Posted by coksiw

The way I see it is that We preach the truth and we practice it. It is not our duty to send people to heaven or hell. It is OK to not know something. It is typical of human to want to answer all questions and know everything, but in reality, and humbly, better to accept that some things belong entirely to the Lord.
If I were her, I would keep my mouth shut up regarding those that didn't and are gone, and keep encouraging people to be baptized in Jesus' Name.
Sometimes, it is OK to say "I don't know" or "I can't tell at this moment", and steer the conversation to what the Bible says for us, the living.

I came from an Assembly of God church, and I did receive the Holy Spirit there speaking in tongues, and I also saw other getting it, and walking in Holiness moved by the Spirit, even though it was taught from the pulpit much.
I have known also of cases of baptists Scholar receiving the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues and keeping it as a secret for years.

God deals with those that truly seek him. Sometimes the fear of being wrong when leaving some traditional interpretations and other traditions don't let them move forward, especially as they get older and more careful.

Well, what this Sister was saying was that those baptizing in the titles, supposedly naively, would not be held accountable for their actions because they had not seen baptism in Jesus' name. If I were to get even more technical, she was saying that there are simply different interpretations of the Bible.

I know of a number of people that received the Holy Ghost, evidenced by speaking with other tongues, "on credit" while attending the Church of God or Assemblies of God churches. I've even known some dear Elders that were baptized with the Spirit while going to old-time Holiness Baptist churches. They all saw the revelation of Jesus, baptism in His name, and the sacred, set-aside lifestyle of holiness, however, and eventually left those churches for not preaching Biblical doctrine.

That's the issue. Some of the people receiving what is said to be the Holy Ghost in churches not preaching the Truth of the Gospel cannot possibly be receiving the real deal. The reason I say that is this: If they were receiving the genuine Spirit of God, which leads us into all truths, would they not receive Biblical essentials and therefore embrace them as the truths they've always been? I know of tongue-talking Church of God pastors that openly deny Oneness, Jesus' name baptism, any holiness in lifestyle or dress, but yet still speak in tongues praying for the people at the altar on Sunday. While I don't want to be a finger-pointer and question everyone's Holy Ghost, but it's hard for me to believe that these individuals have the same Spirit I have when they openly deny and teach against such Biblical fundamentals.

The Baptist movement as a whole has a difficult relationship with tongues. I know some of its denominations, namely the Full Gospel Baptists, the Holiness Baptists, and some Free Will Baptists, are generally opened to being baptized in the Spirit in the Biblical sense and the outpouring of the spiritual gifts operating in their services. The Southern Baptist organization revised their doctrinal statement a few years back to allow their denomination to support and send out evangelists and missionaries that have a "prayer language". There's the issue you run into with denominational churches and other so-called charismatics that relegate the Holy Ghost to a prayer language. Many of them do not even call it the Holy Ghost, but a prayer language. While one could argue that the tongues the Holy Ghost adds to our prayer life is a "prayer language", the vast doctrine surrounding most "prayer languages" is not necessarily Biblical. They almost entirely remove God and His Spirit from their view, which results in millions of people praying in stagnant gibberish that often seems quite obviously fleshly, if not rehearsed or taught.

In concluding my stay on my soapbox, I want to again clarify that I do believe people in denominational churches can receive the genuine Spirit of God. The issue is if they do not accept Biblical essentials. If they deny what the Bible says and what their Holy Ghost is trying to reveal to them, I do believe God will eventually leave them. That will leave them praying in a tongue that's no longer anointed or sent by God.