History of Tithes in the Church

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Sure. Comment or not about your personal beliefs about tithes. Everyone is able to do so. But to think that the UPCI policy on tithes is off limits for exploring and discussing is not logical. This is their beliefs. If you correctly state my beliefs as I have stated them, I would be foolish to call that mud slinging. They should be happy when their beliefs are shared. Don’t you think?

I just stated their beliefs in their own words. It’s not a big secret. I pointed out what is an obvious fallacy to me. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings but I’m a bit puzzled as to what the problem really is here.

Should we also not discuss WPF or ALJC and their history of tithing?

With all due respect, read the thread title.

As for your opinion, I am interested and I appreciate you sharing. But it’s about the history of tithes in the church. And for the last seventy five years the UPCI is part of that history.

Unless you believe that they are not part of the church?

As I have said it has been a good pattern to support church ministries. I didn’t say that the UPCI is off limits for you to discuss, but only I am not going to discuss. I have been very forthcoming with my views and even the practices of my local church. You have already posted the articles of faith, so it is established that the UPCI advocates tithing in a stricter sense which I do not pass down to my local church. I disagree with that, and I am not ashamed to say it. I am not yet convinced it is something I want to break fellowship over it though.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by good samaritan

As I have said it has been a good pattern to support church ministries. I didn’t say that the UPCI is off limits for you to discuss, but only I am not going to discuss. I have been very forthcoming with my views and even the practices of my local church. You have already posted the articles of faith, so it is established that the UPCI advocates tithing in a stricter sense which I do not pass down to my local church. I disagree with that, and I am not ashamed to say it. I am not yet convinced it is something I want to break fellowship over it though.

I’m not suggesting that you break fellowship. What I would like to see is pastors and other leadership that would work to correct it. I’m not advising you to do so either. That would be up to you, obviously.

I do beg to differ with you on the good pattern to support ministries of the church. A GOOD pattern would be one that is scriptural. When we decide to adapt scripture to fit our habits and vision, even though in some cases it may be with good intentions, we have willingly stepped on to a slippery slope. It’s not going to end well (in my humble opinion). And my humility is legendary.



I think this is working from your perspective. I know it’s not working from other perspectives. I may share a story later about that.

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I think this is working from your perspective. I know it’s not working from other perspectives. I may share a story later about that.

Can't wait to hear your story

[good samaritan]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

I’m not suggesting that you break fellowship. What I would like to see is pastors and other leadership that would work to correct it. I’m not advising you to do so either. That would be up to you, obviously.

I do beg to differ with you on the good pattern to support ministries of the church. A GOOD pattern would be one that is scriptural. When we decide to adapt scripture to fit our habits and vision, even though in some cases it may be with good intentions, we have willingly stepped on to a slippery slope. It’s not going to end well (in my humble opinion). And my humility is legendary.



I think this is working from your perspective. I know it’s not working from other perspectives. I may share a story later about that.

There is no pattern commanded in the New Testament (Pattern meaning specified amount and time). I think the point is that it should be done freely, from a cheerful heart, out of our prosperity, etc.. there is no instructions as to require a pattern of giving. I personally believe that tithing was probably introduced to create a pattern of sustainable giving within the Catholic Church. There motives may have been greedy, I really don’t know, only that history depicts it as so. If tithing is hindering a person from providing for their family then they shouldn’t, but if are hearts are right there should be a desire to give, even if we don’t always have the means.