John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

I am having the conversation here, if you have not noticed?

No I didn't notice, because my questions weren't answered. Instead you told me that you were going to your forum to post the information. Leading me to believe that was where you were going to hold the discussion. In times past your Yahweh is a pagan god references always accompanied a link back to your forum. Also, please refrain from being rude with me, because I don't play well with others. I really desire to have a good discussion with you, seeing that you are a believer of Ron Wyatt's stories. Maybe I can learn something from you that I have missed in the past? So, please be kind.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

When I find that I have not really set up a page about a topic, I do that, and it helps to focus my own thinking.

I'm sorry, that would of been helpful to know that in advance. I wouldn't of made mention of you wanting to hold the discussion from your forum.

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Some of this material I read a decade back.

Same here, maybe we can both help each other to see points we missed?

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

To me the 24 chromosomes is a simple fact, and I acknowledge that is rather unusual when first addressed.

A fact in science that 24 chromosomes are lethal, and would of caused Jesus to be deformed if he would've reached adulthood. He also would've been unable to function mentally. As well as unable to speak. Weakness in bones and muscles. I'm eager to learn how we can find this in scripture. Also where does the notion come from that Jesus had 24 chromosomes? Since we don't have a sample of His blood? Has anyone else in human history ever said anything about 24 chromosome Jesus?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Why only 1 from the Holy Spirit? Why not the other 23? A human being has 46 chromosomes. A shortage or surplus of that number is either a mutation resulting in anomalous failure, or is another species. Jesus wasn't another species, nor was He a mutated anomalous failure, therefore it seems logical that we would expect Him to have a full contingent of chromosomes.

This makes perfect sense to me. It is very logical to see Jesus having a total 46. The Bible never indicates to the readers that Jesus wasn't composed of the same flesh and blood as Adam. Which would make me wonder if Eve had 46 chromosomes since she was born out of Adam? If we follow the Ron Wyatt logic she even had less chromosomes than Jesus.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Furthermore, if the ark of the covenant was found, then where is it today? Hidden away by Mossad? Whisked away by MI6 to London? Buried in the Smithsonian? On sale at Roma's Travelling Antiquities And Entertainment Show? I mean, seriously, where is it?

If we stay with the Ron Wyatt narrative the ark is still in the cave. Which is currently being guarded by the four angels. The same four angels who helped Ron Wyatt lift off the 900 pound mercy seat (Ron modified this story over time) and take the pictures of the Ark of the Covenant, with the tablets of stone. Which Ron claimed that the tablets were written in "proto Aramaic?" Now, concerning the term "proto Aramaic" that would be the theoretical reconstructed ancestor of all Aramaic languages. As far as I know, and I'm no Ron Wyatt expert, but, does he even know what "PROTO" Aramaic looks like? Did one of the angels turn to Ron and tell him, "oh, by the way, that's PROTO Aramaic" I guess I'll never know where he came up with that. I must say that over the years Ron Wyatt's story just kept getting stranger and stranger. Since he is no longer available for comment, we can only turn to those who hold more expertease concerning the Ron Wyatt story. I for one am extremely eager to read what Brother Steven has to offer to prove the story of the Ark of the Covenant's existence.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Ethiopia

That's what they say. It is also in the Vatican's basement. There was a story that Martin Luther made a pilgrimage to Rome to see the Vatican. While he was there he viewed the holy relic of John the Baptist's head. On his way home to Germany he met a priest who stopped Luther, and wanted to show him a holy relic which was in the priest's possession. the priest said it was John the Baptist's head. Martin Luther quickly assured the priest that while in Rome, he had viewed the head of John the Baptist! The priest smiled, and said, yes, you have. That was John the Baptist when he was old. The head I have is John the Baptist when he was young.

The whole ark of the covenant situation is sadly I believe much of the same thing. There are so many stories indicating the whereabouts of a holy relic which we were told doesn't matter anymore. In Jeremiah 3:16 we are told that the ark would no longer be necessary. Jesus didn't need to pour His blood on the mercy seat. But, if Brother Steve has some solid proof, I most certainly would like to read his explanations.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

That's what they say. It is also in the Vatican's basement. There was a story that Martin Luther made a pilgrimage to Rome to see the Vatican. While he was there he viewed the holy relic of John the Baptist's head. On his way home to Germany he met a priest who stopped Luther, and wanted to show him a holy relic which was in the priest's possession. the priest said it was John the Baptist's head. Martin Luther quickly assured the priest that while in Rome, he had viewed the head of John the Baptist! The priest smiled, and said, yes, you have. That was John the Baptist when he was old. The head I have is John the Baptist when he was young.

Sounds like a Monty Python skit.

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

No I didn't notice, because my questions weren't answered. Instead you told me that you were going to your forum to post the information. Leading me to believe that was where you were going to hold the discussion.

To clarify, my forum, Pure Bible Forum, is not actually a discussion forum. 99% of the material is my research, with some help from a learned gentleman on Codex Sinaiticus. Rarely is there discussion on a topic.

I use it as a free-form research spot. And for that it works excellently.

Example: Put in any topic, like Theophilus high priest (who was in Luke and Acts), in the search bar, and you will see the research. You can look for just titles. Or you can go to the category on Theophilus

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

A fact in science that 24 chromosomes are lethal, and would of caused Jesus to be deformed if he would've reached adulthood. He also would've been unable to function mentally. As well as unable to speak. Weakness in bones and muscles.

Your proof of any of this is?

[diakonos]

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Steven Avery

Your proof of any of this is?

Yes.

But, please be so kind to answer my questions first.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Yes.

But, please be so kind to answer my questions first.