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09-24-2025, 12:36 AM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Also, regarding the shroud and the "sudarium", how is it that the Beast church of satan has been preserving all these "proofs" of the resurrection of Christ? Is it not more likely that these relics are either falsifications, forgeries, or outright "lying signs and wonders"? I mean, seriously?
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That is quite an interesting thought.
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09-24-2025, 03:41 AM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Brother, the guy (Wyatt) made some claims, which can not be verified, and which are surrounded by data that makes those claims questionable. So, the claims being unverifiable, what is the point?
Also, regarding the shroud and the "sudarium", how is it that the Beast church of satan has been preserving all these "proofs" of the resurrection of Christ? Is it not more likely that these relics are either falsifications, forgeries, or outright "lying signs and wonders"? I mean, seriously?
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From Internet searches, it looks like both Tucker Carlson and Charlie Kirk are/were considering converting to Catholicism. For whatever that is worth.
https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/n...r-to-his-death
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09-24-2025, 08:11 AM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Candace Owens is a Roman Catholic.
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
There is no scientific evidence or credible theory suggesting the Shroud of Turin contains chromosomes or genetic material that would amount to 24. While DNA has been detected on the cloth, the analyses found sequences from multiple individuals of different ethnic origins and Western Eurasian haplogroups, not a unique genetic signature corresponding to a specific number of chromosomes.
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09-24-2025, 12:22 PM
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So are Joe Biden and JD Vance. As was JFK, who was viewed with scrutiny during a time of anti-Catholic bias in this country.
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So are Joe Biden and JD Vance. As was JFK, who was viewed with scrutiny during a time of anti-Catholic bias in this country.
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Did, J.D. Vance convert to Catholicism in 2019?
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Did, J.D. Vance convert to Catholicism in 2019?
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Yeah.
https://slate.com/life/2024/08/jd-va...-religion.html
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09-25-2025, 02:17 AM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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Looking at Charles Kirk, Candace Owen’s also made the claim.
The article is a bit deceptive, since Kirk never referred to “preeminent mediatrix”, he simply explained some major difficulties with RCC doctrines, including the extra elevation of Mary.
It is definitely possible that Charles Kirk had an interest in Catholicism. And overall, the history of his RCC wife Erika does call for scrutiny, including elements of the memorial service.
One thing that was not discussed in the memorial service, how the views of Charlie Kirk on Israel and Netanyahu and Gaza and Jewish $$$ sources (similar to the AIPAC funding of Congress) were changing from an earlier gung-ho Christian Zionism. For one example, Charlie Kirk questioned forcefully if there was a stand-down order on Oct. 7, 2023. (Which would mean essentially that the Israelis allowed the events, to give an excuse for the destruction of Gaza, and the deaths of many 10s of thousands, a good percent women and children, to be followed by the ethnic cleansing of the land.) Also we had Bibi Netanyahu awkwardly interrupting approximately seven wars to quickly go on Social Media to discuss Charlie Kirk and claim him as a faithful ally, and that any intimation that Israel was involved in the events in Utah was absurd. Quite a performance.
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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There is no scientific evidence or credible theory suggesting the Shroud of Turin contains chromosomes or genetic material that would amount to 24. While DNA has been detected on the cloth, the analyses found sequences from multiple individuals of different ethnic origins and Western Eurasian haplogroups, not a unique genetic signature corresponding to a specific number of chromosomes.
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AI is notorious for errors and not giving sources, especially on issues where you have to drill down to specifics.
One point may be true, that there is not a chromosome count connected with the shroud blood. Not 24, not 46, not any number.
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09-25-2025, 07:13 AM
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Re: John MacArthur Didn't like to speak in tongues
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AI is notorious for errors and not giving sources, especially on issues where you have to drill down to specifics.
One point may be true, that there is not a chromosome count connected with the shroud blood. Not 24, not 46, not any number.
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The AI is correct that is no any chromosome count, which you apparently agree with. Yet, Ron Wyatt claimed that the blood sample he scraped off the Mercy Seat just didn't have 24 chromosome. Ron Wyatt stated that the blood scraped off the Mercy Seat was unlike any blood in human history, the blood was alive. Also if on any other surface which would be under scrutiny this would show up in tests. Once again proving that Ron Wyatt was fraudulent in his claims. The shroud of Turin has many different blood DNAs collected due to it traveling all over the place since its origin during the Medieval age.
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