The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits - Page 35

SDG · #**341** 02-23-2007, 10:40 PM

Felicity ....No one has ever said it's an optional experience ... what is in question is it's presentation ....

SDG · #**342** 02-23-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Norris saying it is a valid historical source does not give total credibility. Historical reference? Sure. True scholarship? Not really. Too many mischaracterizations of the UPCI to accept much beyond the historical value.

We had these discussions ad infinitum on FCF and NFCF. I really don't care to jump into it again.

Now you admit it's a valid historical reference ???? Today were discussing it again because some have tried to revise the history .....

rrford · #**343** 02-23-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Felicity ....No one has ever said it's an optional experience ... what is in question is it's presentation ....

But is it optional for salvation or not? Can one be saved without it?

Thumper · #**344** 02-23-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

While I can't negate the huge impact the Spirit of God made on me with the simultaneous experience of conviction & belief ......... and then profound and thorough repentance following swiftly on the heels of conviction and belief ....... there is no doubt in my mind at all the difference that was made in my life spiritually speaking when I received the baptism of the Spirit accompanied by tongues when I was 15 years old.

I can't even begin to imagine the difference there might be today had I never received this anointing of God's Spirit and presence in my life.

I was brought up and taught that it wasn't an optional experience. It was absolutely necessary and I sought for it long and hard. It didn't come easy but it did come

and I am so thankful that I've had the privilege of knowing God in His fullness.

and herein lies the problem. Most of these so called PCI'rs see it as optional, beneficial but not essential.

SDG · #**345** 02-23-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

But is it optional for salvation or not? Can one be saved without it?

No that's not what the thread is about .... We could start another thread ... and discuss the when and how ... ad infinitum....

rrford · #**346** 02-23-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Now you admit it's a valid historical reference ???? Today were discussing it again because some have tried to revise the history .....

Uhm, I think I stated that in the previous post you responded to. There are many books that are valid historical references that may not be totally accurate. The majority of such books are written with bias and that makes some "facts" circumspect.

rrford · #**347** 02-23-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

No that's not what the thread is about .... We could start another thread ... and discuss the when and how ... ad infinitum....

I am only following the statement you made. You said no one was questioning the necessity. I was curious as to what you really meant.

How many threads ever stay on track?

Thumper · #**348** 02-23-2007, 10:44 PM

SG Norris didn't believe the message either really. He was sort of a friends of the bride guy.

SDG · #**349** 02-23-2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Uhm, I think I stated that in the previous post you responded to. There are many books that are valid historical references that may not be totally accurate. The majority of such books are written with bias and that makes some "facts" circumspect.

Can this be said about the obvious historical bias of Bernard's books???

rrford · #**350** 02-23-2007, 10:45 PM

And it totally and absolutely does refer to the intent of the thread.