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Old 06-26-2007, 06:02 PM
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LOL...God does not have to make sense and I suppose that's good reason for you to not make sense either?
I am talking about sense in the form of common sense, logic or knowledge.
When you try to think in terms of God inhabiting ALL of time at once (and i am assuming that you believe that he does) it is very difficult for MY finite mind to comprehend.


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Wrong. I used to think this to. This is what the verse actually says

Rom 5:14 Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come.

Adam is a TYPE of Christ. It never says he was created in the image of Christ. Adam was made in the image of Elohim....God. There is only ONE image and ONE likeness in Genesis 1:27 and that image is Elohim God.
The base word that is used actually is

tupos
a die (as struck),
Anyhting beyond that is an analysis.

A die is
Mech. any of various tools or devices, originally cubical in form, for molding, stamping, cutting, or shaping; specif.,
a) a piece of engraved metal used for stamping money, medals, etc.

If you have a stamp of something or a mold of something You can call it what you want, A type, figure, form, pattern, print. The King James calls it figure, NIV calls it Pattern, Amplified - type (pre figure). Call it what you want, God created Adam in the form of the perfect man that was to come. That is Jesus Christ.

Do you not bellieve that Jesus was God manifested in the flesh?

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And? So you believe Jesus was already a man way back then and as a man he created?

Can you answer my questions and points now?
I don't think that Jesus was a man back then but i do believe that just as you are able to step out of one room in your house into another room and still be in your house, God can step out of one area of time into another, be it past present or future, and see things that are not (as far as we are concerned) as though they were. And in that manner He could have spoken a prophetic utterance to the son.

Did not God make the worlds by the son? Heb 1:1-2

Was not Christ the lamb slain before the foundation of the world?
1 Peter 1:19-20

John 1:3
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Your struggle is not with me it is with the word of God.
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