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07-09-2007, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Yes. What's the point of your question? Is Joe Preacher complacent because he is a millionaire and lost his burden to win souls?
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No, Joe is not complacent nor lost his burden...he simply does not attract a following, he has a monotone voice but there is nothing immoral in his life going on that would have people running away... he simply is a dull public speaker.
The point of the question was to get your thoughts on the matter...should the ministry be set up with salary caps or let Joe Preacher devour all the plunder?
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07-09-2007, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
I have met those non-tithe-paying type "saints" before. Usually their biblical interpretation of tithe and offering principle allows for them to give zilch while at the same time demanding to control all aspects of the church's finances. It's a very convenient biblical interpretation.
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Well, doesn't apply here. Thanks anyway.
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07-09-2007, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rico
With $8 million in tithe money every person in the church should have a position and get paid for it!!!!  I might even shave my beard for a piece of that kind of action! 
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He never said it was a con church. If it's not, you could keep the facial hair, Bro!!
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07-09-2007, 03:30 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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I think we should cap all of the saints income as well. Here's what we could do. Let's say the most a saint can make is $50K a year. Everything after that should go into the church's coffers.
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07-09-2007, 03:35 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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I also think saints should submit their W-2's to the church board each year so that the board can see if they are really giving sacrificially.
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07-09-2007, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alter Ego
I think we should cap all of the saints income as well. Here's what we could do. Let's say the most a saint can make is $50K a year. Everything after that should go into the church's coffers.
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That would definitely restrict church growth.
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07-09-2007, 03:37 PM
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The church board of trustees can have individuals that are not members of that church so as to protect against a coup d'etat, No?
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07-09-2007, 03:38 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Originally Posted by Pragmatist
That would definitely restrict church growth. 
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How so? I mean.....unless..................surely you don't believe a pastor should give a higher percentage than the rest of the church? Cause if you do you are saying that he is held to a different level of accountability, which of course would mean that you believe he has authority with that accountability as well.
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07-09-2007, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by J-Roc
No, Joe is not complacent nor lost his burden...he simply does not attract a following, he has a monotone voice but there is nothing immoral in his life going on that would have people running away... he simply is a dull public speaker.
The point of the question was to get your thoughts on the matter...should the ministry be set up with salary caps or let Joe Preacher devour all the plunder?
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The tithes go to the ministry. No salary caps. If Joe is the only minister/preacher in the church, then the tithes are his.
But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance Numbers 18:24
JRoc, do you even believe in giving tithes? Tithes = plunder?
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07-09-2007, 03:42 PM
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Quoting Rico:
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Originally Posted by Rico
To be honest, if I was paying an $8 million tithe I doubt I would give it all to just one church. Think of all the small struggling churches that could use their mortgage payments taken care of for a year. Or other ministries that could use some funding, like maybe starting a few clothes closets or food programs. That's where I think church money should be going anyway, instead of building gyms and bigger and bigger churches.
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