What's wrong with gambling? - Page 5

freeatlast · #41 03-10-2007, 12:13 PM

I just came back from a great BreakfastBrunch. With a coupon it was 4 for @ 15 bucks.

It was at the complex of one our towns gambling river boats (not actully on the boat)

I almost do not feel good about going there, but we did not go near where the gaming tables and slotr machines are.

When the gaming boats first came, the boats had to actually cruise the river.
Legislation then pssed that said they could remain at the dock.

Now 15 years later, legistlation is in the works that they can build on shore.

I know I regularly see comercials on the "radio" for gamblers anonamous, for people who have lost everything on these boats.

Yes thay bring jobs, economic development, tourism dollars...but at what cost.

J-Roc · #42 07-13-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Newman

Gambling is a transfer of payment from one person to another without actual value added. One out of two gamblers cannot afford to be transferring their money and the majority of gamblers are ultimately going to lose.

In contrast the stock market is the creation of capital that supplies jobs and produce goods and services. Most people who are diversified in the stock market and stay with it long enough will make money not lose it.

However, day traders are an entirely different matter. It could be argued that daytrading is similar and dissimilar to gambling and stock market ownership. It would depend upon the totality of the situation to find which catagory a person's day trading lined them up with....

Yes, if you don't know what you are doing and just throwing your money in the market as if it were a dart thrown at a dart-board while blind-folded and hoping to catch a fish....then, indeed, you are gambling.

However, if you understand the market and know how to implement good risk/reward ideas and understand value, then daytrading is not like gambling.

COOPER · #43 07-13-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

I'm starting this thread at the invitation of another poster who had questions. I'm not going to post a whole bunch of stuff on the initial post, but suffice it to say that I have been politically active in the state of Ohio for almost 20yrs to keep casino gambling from becoming legal. With the help of the Lord, we have been typically outspent over 10-1 in money and have won 2-1 at the ballot.

The government has no business being in the gambling business. It is a regressive tax which preys on those who can least afford it. It places the government's fiscal irresponsibility on the backs of those who earn the least without regard for their welfare except to throw them a "bone" by using a minuscule portion of the revenues for problem gamblers.

There is a new home being raffled off at $50.00 a ticket for charity here in Amarillo. My wife and I thought about getting a Ticket.

If it's for charity causes I see not problem.....when the Local lotto gets real high I usually get a couple of tickets.

I do not see some gambling bad.. It falls into the moderation thing again.

OP_Carl · #44 07-13-2007, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc

Yes, if you don't know what you are doing and just throwing your money in the market as if it were a dart thrown at a dart-board while blind-folded and hoping to catch a fish....then, indeed, you are gambling.

That would be pretty tough. When was the last time you saw a fish leap out of the water right in front of a dart board?

I'll bet you could sell tickets to see that!!!!

The lottery, casinos, property taxes, the Kelo decision, and the National ID act are all simply tools to enslave the population.

Therefore, I hereby deem them evil and ubb dub debbuw.

I have been saying for 15 years that the lottery is a tax on people that don't understand statistics.

What is truly amazing is how the states sell these gambling schemes as a way to boost the coffers and the economy, but don't bother to explain how, exactly, they turn a profit. And then they're short at the close of the year anyhow!

As far as bible goes, I think I remember reading an admonition against gambling, but not a commandment. The principle is certainly in there, both allegorically and in the sense of not letting things have power over us.

COOPER · #45 07-13-2007, 12:32 PM

The 2007 Eveline Rivers Home Giveaway

WHO - NewsChannel 10, KZBZ, KGNC AM, KGNC FM, The Eagle, Builder Wayne Osteen and several local retailers have joined forces to build a custom homefor The Eveline Rivers Project.

WHAT - The 2007 Eveline Rivers Home Giveaway presented by NewsChannel 10 and KGNC.

WHEN - The tickets go on sale beginning Feb. 16th, 2007 and our winner will be picked July 21st, 2007.

WHERE - The house is valued at a minimum of $175,000 and is located at 9004 Clint.

WHY - To raise money for one of Amarillo's favorite charities...The Eveline Rivers Christmas Project and Sushine Cottage.

There will be only 5000 tickets available, so your odds in winning are 1 in 5000. The proceeds go directly to the Eveline Rivers Christmas Project and Sunshine Cottage. Tickets cost $50.00. In order to purchase a ticket, you must download the entry form and mail it with your payment to 314 S. Jefferson, Amarillo, TX, 79101. Or call 372-3985 to make arrangements to pickup an entry form. Your actual tickets will then be mailed to you.

100 finalist tickets will be selected in a random drawing, and from those 100, a reverse drawing will done live at a location to be announced on July 21st, 2007. The winner will be responsible for all taxes involved with winning the house.

Sherri · #46 07-13-2007, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by COOPER

The 2007 Eveline Rivers Home Giveaway

WHO - NewsChannel 10, KZBZ, KGNC AM, KGNC FM, The Eagle, Builder Wayne Osteen and several local retailers have joined forces to build a custom homefor The Eveline Rivers Project.

WHAT - The 2007 Eveline Rivers Home Giveaway presented by NewsChannel 10 and KGNC.

WHEN - The tickets go on sale beginning Feb. 16th, 2007 and our winner will be picked July 21st, 2007.

WHERE - The house is valued at a minimum of $175,000 and is located at 9004 Clint.

WHY - To raise money for one of Amarillo's favorite charities...The Eveline Rivers Christmas Project and Sushine Cottage.

There will be only 5000 tickets available, so your odds in winning are 1 in 5000. The proceeds go directly to the Eveline Rivers Christmas Project and Sunshine Cottage. Tickets cost $50.00. In order to purchase a ticket, you must download the entry form and mail it with your payment to 314 S. Jefferson, Amarillo, TX, 79101. Or call 372-3985 to make arrangements to pickup an entry form. Your actual tickets will then be mailed to you.

100 finalist tickets will be selected in a random drawing, and from those 100, a reverse drawing will done live at a location to be announced on July 21st, 2007. The winner will be responsible for all taxes involved with winning the house.

I can't participate in things like this; just personal convictions. I guess if it's a "Chance", I consider it gambling. Others don't see it that way. We never have raffles or cakewalks or anything like that at church functions, because there are so many differing ideas about gambling.

Pressing-On · #47 07-13-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

I know a man who literally lost his house, his family, his vehicles, and everything else he owned because of a gambling habit. And he was a professing Christian, who just got caught up in the addiction of it. It's hard for me to even fathom, but then I have never gotten close to it, so I don't know how I'd react.

We won't even do cakewalks (where you have to pay) or raffles or anything like that, because literally those are gambling and we try to stay away from any form of it. Maybe that's legalistic in a sense, but I think you have to draw a line somewhere.

Woo hoo!!! Did I finally make the legalism list?????

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Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Well, if you're legalistic in this, I am too. That is the stance I take as well.

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Oh my goodness - what is going to happen to AFF if we all become legalistic?!!! But I gotta tell you, I'm in your camp on this one, bro!! You'll ALWAYS get my vote. And since I'm in Ohio, that vote will actually count!!

They are looking our way, people!!!!!!!!

Can't get that legalism out of their systems!

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