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Originally Posted by Felicity
I agree that we can believe and feel the presence of God and not be saved.
But you can't dismiss radical transformation -- SPIRITUAL transformation -- that takes place in people's lives at the point they become believers and repent.
I know what happened to me. I was radically and gloriously transformed at the age of 6. I didn't get baptized until I was 10 and didn't receive the baptism of the Spirit/speaking in tongues until I was 15.
But during the nine years from 6 to 15 I was a child of God. My heart, my mind and my soul belonged to Jesus Christ and there was ongoing relationship with Him. There was spiritual LIFE inside of me.
You can't dismiss the truth of spiritual transformation in people's lives that brings about total change where their lives change, they quit sinful behavior and have no desire to be part of a sinful lifestyle anymore. Their desire is for GOD -- not for sin. And this kind of change and transformation that can only happen through the work of the Holy Spirit usually precedes both baptism and the Holy Ghost experience as we think of it in regard to tongues.
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Definitely not the desired pattern, Felicity ... what you were you thinking taking such a big risk w/ your soul????