***UPCI's Anthony Langston's New Book: Holier Than God ***

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Anthony Langston [NJ], UPCI minister and NCO member will be launching a new book entitled "Holier than God". I can't imagine he will be w/ the fellowship much longer.
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HOLIER THAN GOD
Below are some snapshots of the upcoming doctrinal thesis on Biblical holiness (of life and outward appearance) by Anthony Langston.

A favorite text of the proponents of traditional positions in any denomination is,"Remove not the ancient landmarks of our fathers." �(Prov. 22:28)

The question begs asking, "Who are our the fathers?" Who are the fathers of the 20th -21st century Pentecostalism? Is it pastors from the 50's & 60's or district and national leaders?

Or is it men of the 20's and 30's who were flaming evangels, strafing the country with tent revivals and leaving in each of their wakes scores of churches and hundreds of Gospel preachers? Read the writings of these men and you'll be hard pressed to find much on the subject of what we call "standards." Rule-based "standards" became the focus of many from a later generation that lacked the power and effectiveness of their predecessors but compensated by "perfecting" the churches they inherited!


However, with that said, Howard Goss is not my doctrinal father. A.D. Urshan (who received the Holy Spirit while my wife's great aunt played the organ and her great grandmother prayed with him in the altar) or C.G. Weeks (who was a close personal friend and mentor of my wife's grandfather) or any other 20th or 19th century preacher does not qualify as a doctrinal father! If you allow this practice, then you can't argue it with other denominations who hold to their iconic elders and their teachings. No! Our doctrinal fathers can be none other than the Apostles, Prophets and Jesus Christ the Chief Cornerstone.

If you cite or hold to any teaching other than the Holy Scriptures as fundamental you are a traditionalist! I prefer to be a primitivist!
For all who say "our forefathers sorted these things out years ago" I would like to ask, have you shown the same courage and earnestness? Have you sorted them out? Or will you settle for the footnotes of someone else's study , prayer and struggle. Someone who was called to a different generation. These men and women were called to another time with very different challenges and with a truckload of their own traditional baggage already deep-seated in them from their 19th century Baptist, Pilgrim Holiness, Wesleyan or Puritan origins!

Do you really want to trace your positional interpretations back to people who burned witches and made transgressors wear scarlet letters for a year after letting them out of public stocks? I'm sorry if I sound extreme, but I'm weary with others attempting to root me in an "old fashioned, traditional, Americana Holiness." Would the Corinthian church have survived the puritan occupation? Or for that matter, could it belong to a mainstream apostolic organization? If you want to understand the Scriptures on subjects such as hair, jewelry, and clothing; you must look at it from the context of this world, not the Apostolic church. Come to my city where men dress like women and women like men, where young people wear enough metal piercings to build a compact car and tattoos are an essential accessory and then you will understand the point and need for these moral, moderate, and modesty principles based in Scripture. But what has happened, is that introverted churches and ministries have turned these Scriptures in on the already separated and righteous and have increasingly raised the bar (perhaps competitively) thus tweaking the issues so far out of perspective and beyond their original intent that many churches and believers are completely isolated and ineffective to their families and larger community. Some have progressed from a holy separateness to a cultish community of exclusion, and the devil is overjoyed!

The problem is not that I don't love holiness, the problem is that some love their standard and their tradition and the affirmation of goose bump clubs more than they love honesty, study, and simple Scriptural verity!

It is amazing to me how differently some scholars write about this subject as opposed to others such as, Baptism, Godhead, etc.. On other subjects they allow no traditionalists views to stand against the barrage of solid scriptural exegesis and hermeneutics. With the sword of Scripture as their only authority, they dismantle falsehoods and establish clear doctrine with multiple contextual witnesses. But when they write on the subject of "outward appearance," they adopt the habits and practices they abhor in others and with conjecture and opinion they stretch a verse beyond its simple truth and then move to another, thus establishing a philosophical buttress of circular reasoning! I've heard everything from, "even witches know this about hair" to "makeup is made from human embryos." Do yourself a favor, take every book you have on the subject, mark out with a thick black marker every sentence and paragraph that is not scripture or clear contextual and honest deciphering of Scripture and you will not be left with much to read!

I'm certainly not angry with these men and writers. I have myself spent too many years doing the same. I'm angry at falsehoods. Religious phariseeisms. I've put up with it for so long, too long. Its time to speak out, to tell the truth no matter the cost! Who am I to think my ministry should be without reproach or slander. I have a cross to bear, perhaps this is part of it. I write this broken; broken in conviction and broken by the thought of friends I love not being able to receive these words. I concur with the hymnologist who said, "Must Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free, there is a cross for everyone and there is a cross for me."

I've had the privilege of watching and learning from new converts who fell in love with holiness through our teaching and seeing them persecuted by family and friends without ever experiencing the extreme version of (standards) that you and I have been subjected to. Don't believe the lie that there is no difference and that the redefiners are all worldly and not standing for anything. You just have to hear the testimonies in our discipleship community groups by these babies. My wife and I try not to laugh because we are thinking to ourselves, "Girl, you have no idea" but their separation is real! Their wardrobe is changing. Its costing them money to throw away clothes and buy different ones. They have been taught principles from the Scripture without traditional definitions and they really do love God enough and are honest enough to embrace the changes that Spirit-led principled living dictates! They really can be trusted to grow!
But that is the real problem isn't it. Trust ! If I don't believe in people then I can't trust them to grow. Therefore I must mandate change through standardized criteria's. The problem with this is that I have bypassed an essential process for them and replaced that process with product! Now I feel accomplished. I have product. I'm affirmed when my appraisers approve of the product. As a leader I am celebrated. But the people haven't transformed! No my friend, they have merely conformed! They did not come to it gradually and personally through the relational process with God. Their chance to "work out their own salvation" was stolen from them by the impatient hands of leadership, leaders more interested in bottom lines than spiritual growth.


The Apostles understood this in Acts 15, when they said, "we will put no greater burden on them than this." (Acts 15:28) But 35 years later in 1 Cor. 11, Paul is dealing with issues that were not in focus at the birth of these precious saints. Holiness is progressive.

[SDG]

Continued

It would astound some of you to know that you can still preach the consecration messages God has given you and still see a congregation swept under the power of conviction, examining themselves under the gaze of flaming eyes, evaluating their consecration and making adjustments and decisions and changes, all of this without (exact clothesline definitions) and without spinning sister Patty on the stage as an example of how every woman (no matter their spiritual maturity) should look and dress. Truth is, it is far more powerful and convincing an atmosphere because it is void of the baggage of condemnation and critiquing pressure that religion adds.

Preach truth without traditionalisms, preach righteousness without religiosity. Legalism is the opponent of holiness. Legalism is a product. Holiness is a process. "As many as are led of the Spirit, they are the sons of God." (Romans 8:14) In the same atmospheres of Shekinah judgment, one person is being dealt with by the spirit of judgment about their common law marriage while another is being convicted of excessive jewelry. Is God dealing with the sexually impure about tithing? Probably not. All different people on all different levels and only God can deal with them all at once.

Legalism has a list. But holiness has an individual progressive agenda with a distant view towards spiritual maturity, PROCESS!!! Legalism is limited to the outward or obvious, but holiness looks deeper.

Admit it, most saints in our churches who measure up to standardized criteria's aren't spiritually mature. Most aren't fruitful, happy, faith-filled, and peaceful. Try this list on them, "the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." (Gal.5:22-23 NIV)

Tradition is no more than an emblem of what was. A caption under a painting of yesterdays victories. Legalism is an attorneys approach . Lawyer, hum, a pharisaical term in the New Testament I believe. Religion is a rulers paradise where many are lording over God's heritage.

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

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Anthony Langston [NJ], UPCI minister and NCO member will be launching a new book entitled "Holier than God". I can't imagine he will be w/ the fellowship much longer.
--------------------------------------

HOLIER THAN GOD
Below are some snapshots of the upcoming doctrinal thesis on Biblical holiness (of life and outward appearance) by Anthony Langston.

A favorite text of the proponents of traditional positions in any denomination is,"Remove not the ancient landmarks of our fathers." �(Prov. 22:28)

The question begs asking, "Who are our the fathers?" Who are the fathers of the 20th -21st century Pentecostalism? Is it pastors from the 50's & 60's or district and national leaders?

Or is it men of the 20's and 30's who were flaming evangels, strafing the country with tent revivals and leaving in each of their wakes scores of churches and hundreds of Gospel preachers? Read the writings of these men and you'll be hard pressed to find much on the subject of what we call "standards." Rule-based "standards" became the focus of many from a later generation that lacked the power and effectiveness of their predecessors but compensated by "perfecting" the churches they inherited!


However, with that said, Howard Goss is not my doctrinal father. A.D. Urshan (who received the Holy Spirit while my wife's great aunt played the organ and her great grandmother prayed with him in the altar) or C.G. Weeks (who was a close personal friend and mentor of my wife's grandfather) or any other 20th or 19th century preacher does not qualify as a doctrinal father! If you allow this practice, then you can't argue it with other denominations who hold to their iconic elders and their teachings. No! Our doctrinal fathers can be none other than the Apostles, Prophets and Jesus Christ the Chief Cornerstone.

If you cite or hold to any teaching other than the Holy Scriptures as fundamental you are a traditionalist! I prefer to be a primitivist!
For all who say "our forefathers sorted these things out years ago" I would like to ask, have you shown the same courage and earnestness? Have you sorted them out? Or will you settle for the footnotes of someone else's study , prayer and struggle. Someone who was called to a different generation. These men and women were called to another time with very different challenges and with a truckload of their own traditional baggage already deep-seated in them from their 19th century Baptist, Pilgrim Holiness, Wesleyan or Puritan origins!

Do you really want to trace your positional interpretations back to people who burned witches and made transgressors wear scarlet letters for a year after letting them out of public stocks? I'm sorry if I sound extreme, but I'm weary with others attempting to root me in an "old fashioned, traditional, Americana Holiness." Would the Corinthian church have survived the puritan occupation? Or for that matter, could it belong to a mainstream apostolic organization? If you want to understand the Scriptures on subjects such as hair, jewelry, and clothing; you must look at it from the context of this world, not the Apostolic church. Come to my city where men dress like women and women like men, where young people wear enough metal piercings to build a compact car and tattoos are an essential accessory and then you will understand the point and need for these moral, moderate, and modesty principles based in Scripture. But what has happened, is that introverted churches and ministries have turned these Scriptures in on the already separated and righteous and have increasingly raised the bar (perhaps competitively) thus tweaking the issues so far out of perspective and beyond their original intent that many churches and believers are completely isolated and ineffective to their families and larger community. Some have progressed from a holy separateness to a cultish community of exclusion, and the devil is overjoyed!

The problem is not that I don't love holiness, the problem is that some love their standard and their tradition and the affirmation of goose bump clubs more than they love honesty, study, and simple Scriptural verity!

It is amazing to me how differently some scholars write about this subject as opposed to others such as, Baptism, Godhead, etc.. On other subjects they allow no traditionalists views to stand against the barrage of solid scriptural exegesis and hermeneutics. With the sword of Scripture as their only authority, they dismantle falsehoods and establish clear doctrine with multiple contextual witnesses. But when they write on the subject of "outward appearance," they adopt the habits and practices they abhor in others and with conjecture and opinion they stretch a verse beyond its simple truth and then move to another, thus establishing a philosophical buttress of circular reasoning! I've heard everything from, "even witches know this about hair" to "makeup is made from human embryos." Do yourself a favor, take every book you have on the subject, mark out with a thick black marker every sentence and paragraph that is not scripture or clear contextual and honest deciphering of Scripture and you will not be left with much to read!

I'm certainly not angry with these men and writers. I have myself spent too many years doing the same. I'm angry at falsehoods. Religious phariseeisms. I've put up with it for so long, too long. Its time to speak out, to tell the truth no matter the cost! Who am I to think my ministry should be without reproach or slander. I have a cross to bear, perhaps this is part of it. I write this broken; broken in conviction and broken by the thought of friends I love not being able to receive these words. I concur with the hymnologist who said, "Must Jesus bear the cross alone and all the world go free, there is a cross for everyone and there is a cross for me."

I've had the privilege of watching and learning from new converts who fell in love with holiness through our teaching and seeing them persecuted by family and friends without ever experiencing the extreme version of (standards) that you and I have been subjected to. Don't believe the lie that there is no difference and that the redefiners are all worldly and not standing for anything. You just have to hear the testimonies in our discipleship community groups by these babies. My wife and I try not to laugh because we are thinking to ourselves, "Girl, you have no idea" but their separation is real! Their wardrobe is changing. Its costing them money to throw away clothes and buy different ones. They have been taught principles from the Scripture without traditional definitions and they really do love God enough and are honest enough to embrace the changes that Spirit-led principled living dictates! They really can be trusted to grow!
But that is the real problem isn't it. Trust ! If I don't believe in people then I can't trust them to grow. Therefore I must mandate change through standardized criteria's. The problem with this is that I have bypassed an essential process for them and replaced that process with product! Now I feel accomplished. I have product. I'm affirmed when my appraisers approve of the product. As a leader I am celebrated. But the people haven't transformed! No my friend, they have merely conformed! They did not come to it gradually and personally through the relational process with God. Their chance to "work out their own salvation" was stolen from them by the impatient hands of leadership, leaders more interested in bottom lines than spiritual growth.


The Apostles understood this in Acts 15, when they said, "we will put no greater burden on them than this." (Acts 15:28) But 35 years later in 1 Cor. 11, Paul is dealing with issues that were not in focus at the birth of these precious saints. Holiness is progressive.

Dan,
Where or how can I get this book. I am not looking for those who might believe like myself.

Just trying to see a point of view from someone who has lived through it.

Nate Eckstadt

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Dan,
Where or how can I get this book. I am not looking for those who might believe like myself.

Just trying to see a point of view from someone who has lived through it.

Nate Eckstadt

I will investigate how you can get a copy of the book, Neck.

[LaGirl]

is he from New York??

[DividedThigh]

i hope he conquers the sacred cow of people thinking they can be holy, holiness is from god, righteousness is of god, not us, it is imputed into our lives by christs work, we need to be modest and moral by gods grace but to think we can attain that by looking or dressing a certain way is ridiculous. The sad part is that people who think they are holy judge others, that is sad, god bless him for writing, i hope the book is good, i will def want to read it, dt

[SDG]

Originally Posted by LaGirl

is he from New York??

He is in the greater metropolitan tri-state area ... he is working in Jersey City, New Jersey. They have just moved into a building that belonged to the Catholic church ... it fits over 800.

Here is their church website http://www.internationalchurchinfo.org/

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

i hope he conquers the sacred cow of people thinking they can be holy, holiness is from god, righteousness is of god, not us, it is imputed into our lives by christs work, we need to be modest and moral by gods grace but to think we can attain that by looking or dressing a certain way is ridiculous. The sad part is that people who think they are holy judge others, that is sad, god bless him for writing, i hope the book is good, i will def want to read it, dt

DT,

Your positions oppose themselves. I know you don't believe they do but they do. You should extrapolate your assertions to their converse conclusions and see if they hold water!

[SDG]

This is from an NCO email I received:

Pastor Hutchins and his family just returned from inspecting the New York and New Jersey Burundi Refugeeworks. Pastors Anthony and Tanya Langston are doing an extraordinary job. In just a short period time, they have established over 70 believers and are expanding their teaching and preaching points in New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania and Connecticut. The present facilty (see below left) cannot accommodate the crowds and there are no overflow rooms available.

As a result, the International Church is poised to move into a new worship facility which will seat about 800. In the next few weeks, the Church of Champions, along with other churches who are participating, will be sending a team of people to help Pastor Anthony and Tanya clean, decorate, and prepare for their "grand opening" service in the new facilities provided by St. John the Baptist Catholic Church.

......

I got to briefly speak to Pastor Hutchins about 3 weeks ago after this trip ... He told us someone tried to snatch his wife's purse in Manhattan ... but was unsuccessful ... Pastor Hutchins gave the perp a good stare down.

[tv1a]

I didn't see a contradiction. Morality and modesty are Biblical princples.

Originally Posted by philjones

DT,

Your positions oppose themselves. I know you don't believe they do but they do. You should extrapolate your assertions to their converse conclusions and see if they hold water!