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Originally Posted by BobDylan
You are taking excerpts from people who are misrepresenting Hermas, Iraneaus, and Polycarp (all of whom were monarchian). Hermas details his theology and Christology. Again, I have the resources, but not at my immediate disposal, to bring other renderings from "Shepherd" that show's Hermas' monarchian theology.
The problem is that you are appealing to trinitarian biased "historians" for their interpretation of the early writings....
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I’ve been lurking for the last few weeks, and I’ve enjoyed reading through some of the discussions. They contain a lot of helpful information, and some very humorous things as well. However, what sparked my attention and inspired me to briefly join were the posts written by the person behind the name “Believer.” He is passionate about what he believes and this far is able to show proof to what he believes, which was not well received. With that said, I want my journey to finding the truth to be as passionate, forthright and honest, even if it hurts.
I'm discouraged by the answers given to “Believer” on the subject “The Early Church Fathers,” as the answers lack any real weight. Answers such as, “all our records were destroyed,” or “that is not what they meant when they said that,” or “the writings were changed by the Catholic heretics” are not valid answers. For one, there isn’t any proof that any records were destroyed, or that all the writings were changed by the Catholic church. By making these assertion without any proof only perpetuate a lie. Their needs to be actual proof, not unfounded information. We should not have to make stuff up in order to be right. That is clearly dishonest. Don’t misunderstand, this is not in support of “Believer” or his doctrine, as it may appear. The truth is not found behind excuses and “pet” answers.
I’m not saying that I have the answers yet, but I want to seek them out, and to do so honestly. I truly believe if the Oneness doctrine was held by the Early Church Christians the answers will be there. God Bless.