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Old 09-05-2007, 11:17 AM
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What proof do you have? Honestly, if everybody made claims without validating them what kind of mess do you think history would look like? This is one of my biggest concerns with some Oneness writers (not all).
You are arguing something from a logical proof that wouldn't even support your own position. For everything you ask me to prove, there is something that I could ask you to prove. And we would both end up using the exact same logic against each other. Once again, you really can't "prove" anything from history, or from historical commentators (on either side of an issue), because invariably, the commentary is going to be skewed toward the bias of the historian.

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Let me ask you this, If I wrote a book and said that Jesus did not exsist, the story was made up 2000 years ago, and gave a large list of proof, but my proof could not be validated, what would your response be?
Your argument here has weakened your own position. For instance, trinitarians have written MANY books claiming that Clement of Rome (AD 95), Polycarp, and Ignatius were "trinitarian".... my question is: where is the proof? Is a trinitarian doctrine extant in any of their writings? Can you "prove" they were trinitarian? If you cannot, what is your response going to be?

Again, the problem is trying to prove something from writings and history that is not inspired from God. There is no developed doctrine of the trinity in any of the original writings of the apostles in scripture. The only thing I have to do is open a few NT passages to prove that all of the apostles and NT writers were monarchian.
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