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Old 09-14-2007, 10:37 AM
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I am still not convinced that they are absolutley proven as factual.

And why has Steadfast ignored my requests to verify he got his facts from the pastor in question?
He may not have seen the requests. Some don't delve into this type of thread.

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It's a dangerous thing to always rush to the defense of what you don't know. Just as much as it is to rush to judge and condemn.

The people I know (several) were heartbroken. They were not judgemental or accusatory.


If you think this has never happened just because of your personal experience, you are in error.

He is stating it did not happen in his church, although many attributed the "legend" as a fact from his church. T1 says it did not happen at all in his church.

You state it was not as told, but much more tame- the wife simply paraded after makeover. Still distressing to those who believe in outward standards, but not as even Thad has embellished it.

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Old 09-14-2007, 11:57 AM
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I made a fool out of myself one time! I got upset because I thought I heard the preacher say something in his message. I wrote a letter to the preacher stating how displeased I was in his comment.

The pastor sent me a tape of the sermon. When I listened to the tape, he actually said something totally different! I had to apologize to the preacher!
I think we have all been guilty of this on one level or another...I really do appreciate your honesty and the fact that you humbled yourself to apologize.
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:12 PM
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It's a dangerous thing to always rush to the defense of what you don't know. Just as much as it is to rush to judge and condemn.

The people I know (several) were heartbroken. They were not judgemental or accusatory.


If you think this has never happened just because of your personal experience, you are in error.
In error...LOL.

I have said many times in this thread that it could happen...but also that the rumor mill, and the perception of events by those who are already hurt or on edge, can and does on many occasions exagerate what really happened...and many times even "see" or "hear" something completely false and fabricated...

If you think that this has never happened just because you'd rather believe the sceptic, critic, and gossip monger...you are in error.


Here's the deal...what does it matter to them anyway...

I'll tell you...these rumors are necessary to discredit the ministries in these churches....it is fear mongering and defamation of character in order to prop up the Apostolic machine...and even put people on their pews...we have several churches in our area that had great revival and church growth ( both numerically and financially) from our transition....

It is nothing more than a prapaganda campaign to enforce the "prophecies of doom" pronounced over us in sermons...they even bring these outlandish rumors to people in our church hoping to have another "great revival and church growth" it would seem...it's funny really the way they go about it especially around Easter when those numbers are reported in the District magazine....:sshhh
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Old 09-14-2007, 12:12 PM
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I guess my youngest sister, who lost her hair during treatment for cancer is very low in spirituality? Sorry, your perception is unbiblical, and your basis for spirituality is placed in the works of an individual instead of in the provision of Christ. This is idolatry, as if God looks on the outward appearance, scripture says that the Father looks at the sacrifice of the Son and is satisfied.

You are literally preaching "Christianity Without the Cross."
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He may not have seen the requests. Some don't delve into this type of thread.




He is stating it did not happen in his church, although many attributed the "legend" as a fact from his church. T1 says it did not happen at all in his church.

You state it was not as told, but much more tame- the wife simply paraded after makeover. Still distressing to those who believe in outward standards, but not as even Thad has embellished it.

He has gone on record on this thread...he should finish what he started IMO...
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ROTFL!!!!! I was thinking the same thing!!!!!
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Old 09-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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He has gone on record on this thread...he should finish what he started IMO...

You should PM him this request as apparently he is not reading the thread.

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I made a fool out of myself one time! I got upset because I thought I heard the preacher say something in his message. I wrote a letter to the preacher stating how displeased I was in his comment.

The pastor sent me a tape of the sermon. When I listened to the tape, he actually said something totally different! I had to apologize to the preacher!
ROFL!!!! You gotta PM or call me with the details of this one. That is priceless.

I have found the last couple of years as I get older that I occasionally remember things incorrectly. It is a little scary. It does not happen often but not too long ago something came up and I could have sworn I remembered
it happening one way when in fact it was different.
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ROFL!!!! You gotta PM or call me with the details of this one. That is priceless.

I have found the last couple of years as I get older that I occasionally remember things incorrectly. It is a little scary. It does not happen often but not too long ago something came up and I could have sworn I remembered
it happening one way when in fact it was different.
Or Mrs. CC1 is just playing tricks on you!
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ROFL!!!! You gotta PM or call me with the details of this one. That is priceless.

I have found the last couple of years as I get older that I occasionally remember things incorrectly. It is a little scary. It does not happen often but not too long ago something came up and I could have sworn I remembered
it happening one way when in fact it was different.
I'll tell you about it in private. Mrs. Pianoman couldn't believe I wrote a letter to him! ha!

When I was six years old, I remember our family being held at gunpoint against a wall.

I THOUGHT I remembered my father saying "Go ahead and shoot the wife and kids!" I held this against him for years!

When we finally talked about it years later, he said he was begging the gunman to let his wife and kids go! The gunman did let my mom and us kids go, but continued to hold my father and an evangelist at gunpoint.

It ended with the gunman shooting himself after being surrounded by the police swat team!
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