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Old 09-14-2007, 01:37 PM
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if you remove Marx's views on religion and you still end up with a system the relies on the compliance of humanity. THIS is the distinct failure of communism and socialism. for these systems to work, all must buy in. Those that do not want to be a part either suffer the wrath of the "tyrrany of the majority" or they must forsake all and leave. Both choices are bad ones.

Any good one may find in a counterfit system, does not belong to the counterfit. Rather, it belongs to the valid system it seeks to replace.

We dont speak of the benifits of a counterfit One Hundred Dollar Bill. "Look how green it is!"

We recognize that reguardless of how exact it may LOOK/FEEL it still has NO VALUE.

I guess, for your next trick you are going to tell us how Socialism has worked in France? LOL!
yes, an economic system that humans govern is based on humans...

REally, if you cut the stuff that has to do with God out of the Constitution/Declaration of Independance (and there isn't much there), you have a fully operational system...

If anything Democracy is TEN TIMES more humanistic than socialism...

and France is not socialistic, they have a few aspects of socialism... You can't do something as massive as socialism half-way... and either way, there is no garuntee that, outside of the dreams of men who want a better world, it would actually work in reality... Humanity is evil, so they aren't going to share... (and I garuntee you France's issues with thier socialistic aspects has more to do with corruption by those who run it than socialism itself)

if socialism were so evil, the early church wouldn't have incorporated a system similar to it, and Sis. Alvear wouldn't be involved in a socialist camp where she is at...
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