The Persecution of Women in the Church

Originally Posted by The Mrs

Is polygamy truth? Should we practice this because our forefathers did?

I believe that's what CH is speaking of when he speaks of cultural differences.

Thank you. Somebody gets it.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Obviously not, or you wouldn't have made that colossal misstatement about how many times Paul spoke by permission.

"Ever learning and never able..." comes to mind.



Early in this thread I thought I smelled this particular rat. I was right.

Sir, by this statement you have placed yourself far outside the Apostolic church.

You do not believe in the infallibility of God's Word, and therefore you and I are in two totally different worlds.

See you.

CS...don't be so quick to write him off...

I think you two are just like two ships passing in the night...misunderstanding each other's intents.

And when you make statements like this to write someone off, it doesn't lend itself to good debate.

Would like to see you two discuss this out and draw some conclusions other than this...

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

When Paul wrote this to Timothy, he didn't conside what he was writing to be scripture. It was a personal letter. The only reason it's scripture today is because the early church fathers wanted to include it in the package of texts relevant to Christianity. Paul was referring to the sciptures of the Old testament, like the Psalms, Ezekiel, the prophet Moses' writings, etc.

You're digging the hole deeper.

I think we have a rule someplace about not attempting to promote false doctrine, and you are.

I am saddened.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

CS...don't be so quick to write him off...

I think you two are just like two ships passing in the night...misunderstanding each other's intents.

And when you make statements like this to write someone off, it doesn't lend itself to good debate.

Would like to see you two discuss this out and draw some conclusions other than this...

He doesn't even believe Timothy is Scripture.

Read his last post.

I have no interest in debating with someone who rejects the infallibility of God's Word.

You are an admin...are you going to address his promoting of the concept that Paul's writing is not Scripture?

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

Thank you. Somebody gets it.

Well...that's kinda what I thought when you brought up this topic.

There are many cultures around the world affected by degradation of women. Societies change, as ours has.

This has been interesting.

Gotta head out now...stay cool, keep your heads, and live peaceably with all men!

Originally Posted by The Mrs

CS...don't be so quick to write him off...

I think you two are just like two ships passing in the night...misunderstanding each other's intents.

And when you make statements like this to write someone off, it doesn't lend itself to good debate.

Would like to see you two discuss this out and draw some conclusions other than this...

Thanks, but obviously we are on different pages. Man is infallible. God isn't. God's word isn't. Having said that, there are scriptures in the new and old testament that do not apply to us today. That's all I have to say on that subject, we are way too far off the beaten path.

[Newman]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

When Paul wrote this to Timothy, he didn't conside what he was writing to be scripture. It was a personal letter. The only reason it's scripture today is because the early church fathers wanted to include it in the package of texts relevant to Christianity. Paul was referring to the sciptures of the Old testament, like the Psalms, Ezekiel, the prophet Moses' writings, etc.

crazyhomie- See 2 Peter 3:15-16 and Ephesians 2:20.

I understood the original post to be about man's response and incomplete understanding of what Scripture meant; not that it wasn't Scripture to start with.

Originally Posted by Newman

crazyhomie- See 2 Peter 3:15-16 and Ephesians 2:20.

I understood the original post to be about man's response and incomplete understanding of what Scripture meant; not that it wasn't Scripture to start with.

I think I understand where he is coming from. Having studied early church histroy, there were many books and letters written to the churches and many have been lost to time. Paul was writing letters to the early churches of his missionary journeys, the H.G. inspired those letters and preserved them for us today to learn from and to teach the Gentile nations how to live Godly. They are God's word to us today. I believe the bible to be the inspired word of God.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Newman

crazyhomie- See 2 Peter 3:15-16 and Ephesians 2:20.

I understood the original post to be about man's response and incomplete understanding of what Scripture meant; not that it wasn't Scripture to start with.

Sister,

I think we have diagnosed the malady.

The man doesn't believe the Word.

You can't debate Scripture with someone who denies its veracity.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

I think I understand where he is coming from. Having studied early church histroy, there were many books and letters written to the churches and many have been lost to time. Paul was writing letters to the early churches of his missionary journeys, the H.G. inspired those letters and preserved them for us today to learn from and to teach the Gentile nations how to live Godly. They are God's word to us today. I believe the bible to be the inspired word of God.

OK.

Which is it?