Sorry Tamar I disagree.A true legalist wants it spelled out in the law so they can follow only what they have to.That is why someone can run up right away and say....Jesus drank wine.Its easier than being separate and praying and walking in the spirit.Jesus also never drove a car and never wore an expensive suit or wore a rolex.lf it were up to culture I would be the biggest drunk of them all.My culture is cajun and ask anybody our folks are some of the biggest drunks on the planet.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are arguing in favor of a rule against drinking. The basis of this rule is that some people sometimes abuse it and get drunk, is that right?
Well, why not outlaw reading? Some people read the "wrong" things. How about photography? I don't have to tell you about the abuses in that area! The use of the English language can be pretty nasty. Let's all stick to Hebrew, shall we?
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le·gal·ism / Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lee-guh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
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strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.
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le·gal·ist, noun
Also -- what does Jesus not driving a car, wearing an expensive suit, or wearing a rolex have to do with the AG drinking wine in Australia? Now I'M confused........
Let me see if I can help, Tamor. She is trying to argue that anyone (us "legalists") who would allow something that Jesus did (drink) should obviously then forbid everything He didn't do (drive). Yeah, isn't it obvious???
The crack about praying and walking in the spirit really stung. I obviously can't do that if I ever allow alcohol into my system. I feel terrible now. (Jesus must have had an immunity to it, or something.)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you are arguing in favor of a rule against drinking. The basis of this rule is that some people sometimes abuse it and get drunk, is that right?
Well, why not outlaw reading? Some people read the "wrong" things. How about photography? I don't have to tell you about the abuses in that area! The use of the English language can be pretty nasty. Let's all stick to Hebrew, shall we?
Correct me if I am wrong but since I do speak English and you understand it as well you think the ministry of the AOG is fine by spelling drinking among the ministry okay? And btw I am no idiot thank you.I know well what alcohol leads to.Maybe you could consider not being as condecending huh? How about just bringing out scripture.Sandra simply stated that the AOG in Australia which once stood against the consumption of alcohol as does the
Southern Baptist association and a number of other church organizations
has decided its okay to consume alcohol.I think its a let down and a mistake
and sadly disapointing.
le·gal·ism / Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lee-guh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
strict adherence, or the principle of strict adherence, to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit.
—Related forms
le·gal·ist, noun
Also -- what does Jesus not driving a car, wearing an expensive suit, or wearing a rolex have to do with the AG drinking wine in Australia? Now I'M confused........
Tamor I have my own dictionary.The did let me in college though I am from
La.lol..Its the principle.There are alot of things that Jesus did not do that people do today is my point here so we cannot use the argument to support drinking that Jesus drank wine.
Tamor I have my own dictionary.The did let me in college though I am from
La.lol..Its the principle.There are alot of things that Jesus did not do that people do today is my point here so we cannot use the argument to support drinking that Jesus drank wine.
T, I know you've got a dictionary.
And I'm not even arguing that Jesus drank wine. I don't believe it's a sin to drink, even though I don't and I don't plan to start. My point is that your definition of a legalist was backwards.....
And the "Jesus did not drive a car, wear an expensive suit, or wear a rolex" statement is so moot, because they did NOT have them then. Do you drive a car? Do you like nice clothes? Do you like nice watches? Should we all sell our cars and start walking and riding camels everywhere we go?
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And I'm not even arguing that Jesus drank wine. I don't believe it's a sin to drink, even though I don't and I don't plan to start. My point is that your definition of a legalist was backwards.....
And the "Jesus did not drive a car, wear an expensive suit, or wear a rolex" statement is so moot, because they did NOT have them then. Do you drive a car? Do you like nice clothes? Do you like nice watches? Should we all sell our cars and start walking and riding camels everywhere we go?
no sis.In actuality a true legalist is someone who wants it in black and white
defined on a page or they refuse to abide.Those who are Holy Ghost filled and Jesus seeking want the letter and the Spirit.Get it?
no sis.In actuality a true legalist is someone who wants it in black and white
defined on a page or they refuse to abide.Those who are Holy Ghost filled and Jesus seeking want the letter and the Spirit.Get it?
You think a rule against drinking is a good thing. That's fine. You could be right.
But how you get your definition of "legalist" is still way beyond my understanding.
Oh, you asked me for scripture a few posts back. I can do that, but I have to wonder why. It's black and white. It's on paper.
There I go being condescending again. Sorry, but I'm having a real hard time understanding the points you are making. A legalist wants it in black and white before he'll agree? Someone who disagrees with your stand against drinking is a legalist?
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You think a rule against drinking is a good thing. That's fine. You could be right.
But how you get your definition of "legalist" is still way beyond my understanding.
Oh, you asked me for scripture a few posts back. I can do that, but I have to wonder why. It's black and white. It's on paper.
There I go being condescending again. Sorry, but I'm having a real hard time understanding the points you are making. A legalist wants it in black and white before he'll agree? Someone who disagrees with your stand against drinking is a legalist?
Tim do you just like to argue? no thanks.Lets agree to disagree.
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