Original Merger Letter - Page 9

Steve Epley · #81 10-13-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Hey, who said uniformity? But then again, wouldn't "unity of the faith" infer uniformity in faith? The word uniformity is one you have thrown into the mix.

Uniformity is foolishness no one even suggested that. However we are affected by what we hear and conversations we have. If the PAJC were better missionaries of their point of veiw than the PCI whose fault is that?

SDG · #82 10-13-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Uniformity is foolishness no one even suggested that. However we are affected by what we hear and conversations we have. If the PAJC were better missionaries of their point of veiw than the PCI whose fault is that?

Similar thinking has been used to justify genocides.

stmatthew · #83 10-13-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

The point is that this was a direct quote from scripture ... not the authors of the clause ... their intent is evident in the many primary documents and eyewitness accounts of the day ... not our convenient readings of the Fundamental Doctrine years later. We must take this FD clause and reconcile w/ other data ... and you have none.

Given that I believe their intent was to follow the Holy Book, I will take it that they intended at some point in time that ALL would grow together in spiritual unity until ALL had grown together in the unity of the faith.

So while there was room for differing opinions during the "growing season", there was expectation that at some future point there would be a common faith that ALL had grown into.

SDG · #84 10-13-2007, 10:46 AM

It's been swell guys ... I've got go to the laundry and do the wash ... the kids are bored ... so we'll continue this later.

rrford · #85 10-13-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Again we are now talking about the merger ... not his quote of a friend about Goss holiness views .... keep your head in the game and eye on the ball

Oh, of course. The merger, only the merger. So can we discount the quotes TF uses of folks about other folks? Oh no. Perish the thought. The TF book is sacrosanct.

Really, DA, your approach is like saying two folks who get married have to stay exactly as they are since they were who they are when they got married. To change into a cohesive "us" would be wrong. Got news for you, it don't work that way.

SDG · #86 10-13-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stmatthew

Given that I believe their intent was to follow the Holy Book, I will take it that they intended at some point in time that ALL would grow together in spiritual unity until ALL had grown together in the unity of the faith.

So while there was room for differing opinions during the "growing season", there was expectation that at some future point there would be a common faith that ALL had grown into.

This didn't happen in Paul's day ... ??? What happened I thought the Apostolic doctrine was set in stone since then???

rrford · #87 10-13-2007, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Similar thinking has been used to justify genocides.

Oh great. Now we have gone forom holocaust to genocide.

Your comparisons bore me as they are intellectually lacking. Keep trying though. There are a few atrocities you have yet to compare the UPCI to.

Steve Epley · #88 10-13-2007, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Similar thinking has been used to justify genocides.

Good grief.

SDG · #89 10-13-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rrford

Oh, of course. The merger, only the merger. So can we discount the quotes TF uses of folks about other folks? Oh no. Perish the thought. The TF book is sacrosanct.

Really, DA, your approach is like saying two folks who get married have to stay exactly as they are since they were who they are when they got married. To change into a cohesive "us" would be wrong. Got news for you, it don't work that way.

My quotes of TF were in relation to the Goss not being re-elected not the merger ... he offers a body of evidence for this view and Elder Epley agrees w/ it...

and I told Barb to go read it ... there are footnotes ... it is based on scholarly research ....but again I digress ... Please offer historical data to show that the intent of the merger was to one day have the other conform.

SDG · #90 10-13-2007, 10:51 AM

Peace out.