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Old 10-20-2007, 08:52 PM
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Exactly describes Wicca and Druidism to a T and other earthly religions the opposite of Tolkien

And in TLOR marriage and family were central. Homosexuals were not portrayed. Children and having children is central.
How many kids did Gandalf have during those "300 lifetimes of men?"
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How many kids did Gandalf have during those "300 lifetimes of men?"
I was talking about the MOVIE in general. The central THEME and BTW in case you missed the pertinent part, Gandalf was NOT of this world and therefore not taken with sex. But having families and children was central to the theme of GOOD characters of men and elves in the movie. BTW I don't think orc children were ever portrayed
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My daughter doesn't want to believe it! LOL!
But she does agree that it's a slam against the Christian people.

She's big-time into Harry Potter, but only for the literary content. She is also big-time into church.
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Harry Potter makes my skin crawl anyway,...........and now this!
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:06 PM
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My daughter doesn't want to believe it! LOL!
But she does agree that it's a slam against the Christian people.

She's big-time into Harry Potter, but only for the literary content. She is also big-time into church.
The series of books are literary masterpieces. No two ways about it. I believe J.K. Rowling is the most gifted writer of her era.

I understand some Christians problems with the books because of their subject matter and they might indeed influence some young mushy minds who do not have a Christian upbringing. But for anybody with an ounce of sense and appreciation for fantasy they are wonderful and have about the same effect regarding witchcraft that Bewitched did in the 60's and 70's.
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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The series of books are literary masterpieces. No two ways about it. I believe J.K. Rowling is the most gifted writer of her era.

I understand some Christians problems with the books because of their subject matter and they might indeed influence some young mushy minds who do not have a Christian upbringing. But for anybody with an ounce of sense and appreciation for fantasy they are wonderful and have about the same effect regarding witchcraft that Bewitched did in the 60's and 70's.
At the risk of sounding conservative (ahem.....), I want to go on record and say that I think Bewitched was one of the downfalls in American culture. It made witchcraft seem cute and acceptable, and made little girls emulate someone who God would call an abomination. Even acceptance of Casper the "friendly" ghost and Wendy the Witch made light of something that God called unholy. I grew up on this stuff, but I wouldn't let my kids watch it.

If those shows had not been accepted in the 60's/70's, the more blatant shows like "Charmed" would not have had an inroad today. JMHCO!
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Old 10-20-2007, 09:13 PM
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This type of thing gives a lot of credence and arsonal to the conseratives.
Afterall, you folks have been supporting all this mess and now you are surprised?? let down?? come on
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At the risk of sounding conservative (ahem.....), I want to go on record and say that I think Bewitched was one of the downfalls in American culture. It made witchcraft seem cute and acceptable, and made little girls emulate someone who God would call an abomination. Even acceptance of Casper the "friendly" ghost and Wendy the Witch made light of something that God called unholy. I grew up on this stuff, but I wouldn't let my kids watch it.

If those shows had not been accepted in the 60's/70's, the more blatant shows like "Charmed" would not have had an inroad today. JMHCO!
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I'm somewhat surprised here Sherri. You do understand "Casper" and "Wendy" and all of that was "just pretend?" I'm no promoter of those things because I saw them as silly and frivolous. But there were never dangerous.

But "Bewitched" as a "downfall of American culture?" Maybe because it was so trite. But it certainly wasn't dangerous to an educated person who realized that even if you could wriggle your nose nothing supernatural would occur.
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At the risk of sounding conservative (ahem.....), I want to go on record and say that I think Bewitched was one of the downfalls in American culture. It made witchcraft seem cute and acceptable, and made little girls emulate someone who God would call an abomination. Even acceptance of Casper the "friendly" ghost and Wendy the Witch made light of something that God called unholy. I grew up on this stuff, but I wouldn't let my kids watch it.

If those shows had not been accepted in the 60's/70's, the more blatant shows like "Charmed" would not have had an inroad today. JMHCO!
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Are you suggesting Mrs. CC1's behaviour is modeled after Samantha????
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I was talking about the MOVIE in general. The central THEME and BTW in case you missed the pertinent part, Gandalf was NOT of this world and therefore not taken with sex. But having families and children was central to the theme of GOOD characters of men and elves in the movie. BTW I don't think orc children were ever portrayed
Yes. But that was my original point. The "asexual" character pointed to those things that were higher than the usual human experience.

Kind of the way Spike Lee's "magical negro" (his words) characters transcended the social and racial dimensions of the other, usually white characters.
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