Im sure the neighboring cities that survived in the area of Sodom found other reasons why Sodom was destroyed. Just "nature" no doubt. A coincidence that could have happened anywhere.
And also its NOT JUST SODOMY California has transgressed so mightily. Jude said FORNICATION was the sin that destroyed Sodom. Sodomy is under the umbrella of fornication.
Sodom was not the only city destroyed. California is NOT a city. It's one nation with a lot of people serving God in it. Truly sad...and pathetic.
You've just made the argument that we Californians are all fornicators...well how convenient for you. What state do you live in? Or perhaps should you fall ill or something bad happen to you or your family we can all say it was because of your fornicating ways
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NEWS FLASH!!! Fornication is not exclusive to California. Seems to be rampant everywhere...in every city....in every state.
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AMEN!!! I think this person needs to get out a bit more! Come to Dallas! I can show you some pretty disgusting places and Florida and well goodness what state doesnt have these same issues?
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Bro, next time you find yourself wishing that God rain down fire on California, think twice and consider all of the godly men and women out here experiencing revival.
Perhaps you ought to be praying for revival, rather than gleeing in what you perceive to be God's judgment.
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God finally said he would spare Sodom if there were 10 righteous men. I think CA has many more then that.
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If his actions speak true....then Amsterdam sure is a big crater by now.
Wow I just got here, but I see I am in the company of greater minds and reasonable saints than the so called "Disciple" that started this idiotic threat
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As there was also fornication in the days of Sodom in other places. Yet YHWH chose to use SODOM as the EXAMPLE of his wrath.
: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Jude 7
What does Jude mean Sodom is an EXAMPLE?
Why doesn't God destroy all other states and nations. Fornication is everywhere! Good grief!
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That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
People no longer fear GOD. They dont believe he will react against sin. Thats why even Christians cannot accept that he judges sin. I DO preach on the fear of God. My hope is that it will be restored to the salvation of souls.
Yet please dont think this thread is all exhaustive concerning whats going to happen in the world. This is small compared to the great judgments yet to come.
Fear God. Love God. Seek him diligently. Obey his commands.
Who says we are not obeying him?
It was not the mayer of Sodom that caused that event. The WHOLE city was given over to it.....I can't believe I am reading this stuff here. What you are saying is God brought down judgement on all of SD because of that one mayer...then you go to the next dumb thing by saying California is synonymous with fornication!
I can't believe my eyes. Then you turn around and try to make this a spiritual issue about us? Incredible.
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Sometimes YHWH IS in the wind and the fire. America will either learn or be destroyed. Same with all nations.
Does his word teach he punishes nations and cities and even individuals for their sins?
So in other words anything bad that happens to a nation or an individual is because they are sinners....I hope and pray you don't get sick with the flu or something else.
I hope and pray your family does not get sick or die....I'd hate to be in your shoes with the realization that it was because you are a sinner.
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
So in other words anything bad that happens to a nation or an individual is because they are sinners....I hope and pray you don't get sick with the flu or something else.
I hope and pray your family does not get sick or die....I'd hate to be in your shoes with the realization that it was because you are a sinner.
Or because your wife cut her hair....
Ok, never mind.
I'm a little surprised by some of the responses I have read here.
Have we become so complacent that we think God would not just our country?
I know of a man that said God dealt with him all night one night back at the beginning of the year. He told us great calamity was coming to America.
IF you consider this year thus far:
Fires in California out of control.
IF I recall correctly earlier in the year there were fires in the NE coast.
Drought in the south
Floods in places never before experiencing floods.
In fact, I am wondering if there is a state in America that hasn't felt storms, fires, etc of some kind. And we haven't even seen what the snow season may bring.
I do not believe God is going to let the abortions and gays to polute this land without cost to the people.
JMO
Again God would not have destroyed Sodom if he could find 10 righteous in it....this 'person' is saying California is synonomous with fornication because of what Arnold signed....WE DID NOT SIGN THAT! We did not VOTE on it. WE are a not all fornicators
How many gays were killed in this fire? How many abortion clinics went up in flames? 500k people were displaced in SD...how many of them were homosexuals?
When something bad happens to you is it judgment because of Sin?
Listen, we have fires EVERY YEAR! We have earth quakes all the time. We have been having fires since forever. Now there are MORE people living in areas that were once not affected. If this was about the law signed in, kill Arnold and the legislators. Wipe out SF.
It's really easy for someone go come by AFTER the fact, read the paper and say "this was God", but in the bible there was always a warning first. God told Abraham. God told Jonah to go to Ninevah.
BTW was Job a sinner that he had calamity happen to him?
I repeat, God forbid something should happen to people that think this way, or to their families....and believe it was because of sin. Of course they will deny it was because of Sin, but can you imagine someone else coming to you and accusing you of fornication saying that was why God punished you?
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Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Or because your wife cut her hair....
Ok, never mind.
Well it can be anything...and then what will the reaction be when someone comes to him and says "Brother God punished you because of your fornications" or "Brother God punished your wife because the city you lived in had a mayer force firemen to partake in a gay parade"????
Bad things happen to good people.
Disasters happen. Many churches were destroyed by Katrina.
I still want to know why Amsterdam has not been nuked yet by God if this is the case
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The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
No, I can think of others. Just my humble opinion.
The question of "Why do bad things happen?" and our attempts to find God's "justice" in it all is as old as man.
Job suffered terribly, and for no justifiable reason. David saw the wicked prosper and his only consolation was in the afterlife.
California burns (again!) but San Francisco (and Nancy Pelosi's house) are safe. Good Apostolics are homeless right now and they are being assisted by firemen who marched in a "gay pride" parade.
None of it makes sense if you see God sitting atop Olympus hurling thunderbolts at those who displease Him. That idea would suggest that His aim is off considerably.
It's one thing to ask these questions but far another to make the assertion that God attacked California because California is synonymous with fornication and compare it to Sodom where there were not even 10 righteous
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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