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Old 10-25-2007, 10:47 AM
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Jesus said Jonah was "in the belly of a whale."

Matthew 12:40
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He obviously heard that from a UPC preacher! LOL!
Forgive me... I just started reading this thread… glad PP posted that scripture.. I do believe it was a whale…

Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

God prepared and even named the great fish that would swallow Jonah up… he knows our failures…I believe he sees ahead of course and prepares for them.

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

Matt 13:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


My brother preached a message on this once and I bawled like a baby through the whole thing ... had so many failures in my life... just was so assuring to know that he always prepares for our failures.. and he can still use us...even to do great things.


ok, I will go back to reading the rest of the thread..
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Old 10-25-2007, 01:47 PM
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I thought it was a Hebrew word.
It is, but nowhere in the bible.
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Warning: FALSE DOCTRINE ON THESE SITES.

http://shekinah.elysiumgates.com/

http://www.crystalinks.com/shekinah.html
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:14 PM
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Here's one,

I've heard sooooo many people preach this, they say that in Acts 2:37, the crowd in Jerusalem who responded to Peter's preaching asked, "Men and brethren, what must we do to be saved?"

When, in reality, it only says that they asked "What shall we do?"
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I've heard sooooo many people preach this, they say that in Acts 2:37, the crowd in Jerusalem who responded to Peter's preaching asked, "Men and brethren, what must we do to be saved?"

When, in reality, it only says that they asked "What shall we do?"
Someone already mentioned that somwhere in the forum, -- I am not sure if it was in this thread, though.

But Peter's implication was that it was what they should do for salvation, becuase verse 40 says those words Peter gave, along with many others, were basically saying "SAVE YOURSELVES". So it does fit.
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Old 10-25-2007, 03:19 PM
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Someone already mentioned that somwhere in the forum, -- I am not sure if it was in this thread, though.

But Peter's implication was that it was what they should do for salvation, becuase verse 40 says those words Peter gave, along with many others, were basically saying "SAVE YOURSELVES". So it does fit.
It fits, but it's not written like many quote it.
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It fits, but it's not written like many quote it.
I agree.
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I haven't read all the way through this thread - don't have time, just on brek here - but the scripture that comes immediately to mind is the one OPs use all the time ....... "not everyone that says Lord Lord will enter in" (however it goes). They use it to throw the rest of Christians outside out own ranks in hell. In reality the scripture is talking about "false prophets" who are working EVIL works.

Context, context, context.
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I haven't read all the way through this thread - don't have time, just on brek here - but the scripture that comes immediately to mind is the one OPs use all the time ....... "not everyone that says Lord Lord will enter in" (however it goes). They use it to throw the rest of Christians outside out own ranks in hell. In reality the scripture is talking about "false prophets" who are working EVIL works.

Context, context, context.
Felicity: doncha know that aLL those outside of our ranks are false prophets ?

J/Kiddin...but some do believe that.
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It is, but nowhere in the bible.
"shekinah" in Old Testament times had cognates in Ugaritic and Aramaic. It wasn't used in OT times perhaps because of the associations the word had in those other religions. The idea was usually expressed as "kabod" in the OT.

Some of the "winged creatures" in ancient Assyrian artwork were called "shekinah."



It was in rabbinic times that, as the Jewish language changed and the other "pagan" religions were absorbed or modified, that different expressions came into use. Even today however, especially among kabbalists there are some strains of thought that many feel are not quite "Jewish" that are associated with the word.

Like many other religious terms, the word can have various meanings to different people at different times. This does present a problem for those of a literalistic mindset. But being overly literal is a problem in and of itself that only education can relieve.
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