How Many "3 Steppers" Do We Have On Aff???

Originally Posted by chaotic_resolve

This has to be TIC or something. Thanks for the laugh though, I needed it.

You look like and remind me a lot of an individual from EC named Christopher Scully. I could be wrong.

[Thad]

I think most here believe in the 3 steps but many believe that 2 of them are optional.

The thing that bothers me about the PCIers is that there are people that sit on their Pews for years that never make a move to be baptized or reveive the holyghost

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I don't know Caston...the toe on that first shoe doesn't seem round enough...are you sure that's not a liberal show? I'd hate think all this time you were really liberal and didn't know it

I would also like to mention neck ties.

I do not believe men should wear "slip not ties" or knots tied like the military.

I believe that the only acceptable tie knot would be that of a traditional windsor knot. As it is the most classy, and dressy looking form of a tie knot. The others are slobbingly sloppy as though one didn't take much time in their appearance, and I believe we should look our very best when going to the House of God. Amen?!

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

I would also like to mention neck ties.

I do not believe men should wear "slip not ties" or knots tied like the military.

I believe that the only acceptable tie knot would be that of a traditional windsor knot. As it is the most classy, and dressy looking form of a tie knot. The others are slobbingly sloppy as though one didn't take much time in their appearance, and I believe we should look our very best when going to the House of God. Amen?!

OK...now I know you are a fake, just trying to stir the pot here on AAF.

Nobody with a lick of sense could really believe what you just posted....

Come on tell us who you really are.

[Adino]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Can repentance happen ... is it possible aside from faith and belief?

I think that the Spirit of God touches a man and he responds. I don't think that a person always stops to analyze what is happening to him re faith and belief when the Holy Ghost is moving on him and he's responding to the promptings and conviction of that. He wouldn't know enough to even do that.

Repentance "toward God" can certainly happen apart from faith "in Christ," but it is faith "in Christ" that completes a returning to God. I give Cornelius as a very good example of someone who had a humble and contrite heart toward God, but had yet to hear the Gospel of Christ. It wasn't until he was presented with the Gospel of Christ's resurrection that his heart was able to fully return to God. Good to see you, Felicity. Now let me see what Steve had to say.....

Originally Posted by freeatlast

OK...now I know you are a fake, just trying to stir the pot here on AAF.

Nobody with a lick of sense could really believe what you just posted....

Come on tell us who you really are.

What would you like? My phone number?? Address??? Driver's license????
www.myspace.com/castonsmith

I am who I say I am ... and I do most certainly feel that way about tie knots. Now I don't believe it's a sin if you don't wear a windsor knot, however I believe it's a lot more presentable than say a military knot.

[Adino]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

AGAIN does regeneration take place BEFORE and APART from repentance......Faith is the driving force of all we do to please God, repentance-baptism-HGB-walking with Him IT IS A PROCESS to quote TB.

Regeneration does not take place until the heart passes from darkness to light, from death to life, from unbelief to belief. It is the quickening power of God.... the spirit of man is born of the Spirit of God at the moment the humble and remorseful heart is revived at its conversion to faith.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

While repentance requires a faith in God it does not require a faith in Christ. Again, I point to Cornelius as example. The heart humbled before God does not fully "repent" (i.e., return) to God until Jesus Christ is made the heart's object of faith. This conversion of the humbled heart to Christ takes place in repentance.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Adino

Regeneration does not take place until the heart passes from darkness to light, from death to life, from unbelief to belief. It is the quickening power of God.... the spirit of man is born of the Spirit of God at the moment the humble and remorseful heart is revived at its conversion to faith.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

While repentance requires a faith in God it does not require a faith in Christ. Again, I point to Cornelius as example. The heart humbled before God does not fully "repent" (i.e., return) to God until Jesus Christ is made the heart's object of faith. This conversion of the humbled heart to Christ takes place in repentance.

Again Adino I am trying to understand what you are saying?
Repentance requirs faith in God but NOT in Christ? Help me some here?
Again does regneration take place BEFORE and APART from repentance?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

I mentioned G. T. Haywood because he wrote the song "I See A Crimson Stream of Blood" ... only to say or reiterate that we know that the blood of Jesus Christ is crimson red.

And if a man wears a red dress shirt or red suit, anything loud in the color red, would be throwing off on the blood of Jesus, or one could say that they are being "lose, careless, etc" with the blood due to their choice of color.

Personally I think that if you're avoiding the color red based upon this principle you may need to look in your heart for idolatry. My blood is "crimson red" too.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

As for as pink goes, I believe the Bible teaches a man should be masculine and not in any way feminine in nature. Thus pink shirts are totally unacceptable and should not be worn.

Well, again... what's good for you and me may not be necessary for eveyone else. Evangelist Benincasa, is an example of someone I'm told looks good in pink and I'd never question his manhood for it.

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

It is from my understanding by being around and talking to the old timers of Pentecost that if men back years ago wore colored shirts to church or patten-leather shoes, they would be considered a homosexual. Now while that is NOT the case today, I still believe we should take into consideration some of the good standards that our forefathers taught. In my opinion it will not make anyone closer to God should they adhere to this standards, nor will it break anyone from having a close relation with God if they choose not to.

We are in agreement here, I believe. Personally I think we should have kept the old standard about "not shaving your face smooth like a woman's." The old timers put a lot of stock in a man looking like a man.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Caston Smith

I would also like to mention neck ties.

I do not believe men should wear "slip not ties" or knots tied like the military.

I believe that the only acceptable tie knot would be that of a traditional windsor knot. As it is the most classy, and dressy looking form of a tie knot. The others are slobbingly sloppy as though one didn't take much time in their appearance, and I believe we should look our very best when going to the House of God. Amen?!

LOL! C'mon Bro! The half Windsor is just as good (the "military style").

Personally I have a problem with the House of Windsor and their promotion of promiscuity and homosexuality. Wearing the full "Windsor Knot" endorses the lifestyle that these loose people lead; and the same with the "Onassis knot" and the really gay "Merovingian knot."