When the Pharisees Accused Jesus of Being used by the Devil...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Chan

I do believe in the gift of discernment. I just don't believe that gift extends to being able to say a person is "of the devil" (as opposed to what a person says or believes being of the devil). As for Peter, Ananias and Sapphira, Peter never said they were of the devil, he only asked why Satan has filled their hearts so as to lead them to lie to the Holy Ghost. Satan didn't force them to lie, they chose to do it. Did Satan entice them to do it? Certainly, but the choice to lie was still theirs and they made that choice. Notice that God's response was not to go after Satan but to take the lives of Ananias and Sapphira. God obviously knew that Ananias and Sapphira were responsible for their own actions.

Sounds like semantics here....it really comes down to what does each person mean by "of the devil"

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Chan

There's a difference between being possessed by demons and someone being "of" the devil. The point of the matter is, though, that we must not be so quick to go around accusing people of being "of the devil," particularly people in whom the Spirit of God resides.

Well, this part I agree with!

I also agree with Prax...it's semantics to a point....

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Chan

You did...here:

"So you think its all right to tell someone they are of the devil? That would be blunt and straightforward."

Maybe you need to enroll in the Evelyn Wood speed reading program.

IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII never said any person was of the devil. I simply asked a question. Get it?

[MissBrattified]

Am I the only one finding this thread humorous?

Originally Posted by J-Roc

You act as if everything that involves the study of psychology is wicked...we all went and got degrees from schools that teach this supposed "wickedness" and we all know how to retain the good...I'd give her the benefit of the doubt that she too knows how to separate the good from the bad....so let's put down our crucifix and take a chill pill.

Psychology is a worldly philosophy. Because it is a worldly philosophy, that makes it wicked (because it is worldly wisdom originating in a wicked world). There is nothing good in any worldly philosophy/wisdom. Paul said that the wisdom of this world (which would include psychology) is foolishness to God. That being the case, there is no place for worldly wisdom in the Church.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Am I the only one finding this thread humorous?

No, all of a sudden I find it quite enjoyable.

[berkeley]

luks like I missed somethin

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Chan

Psychology is a worldly philosophy. Because it is a worldly philosophy, that makes it wicked (because it is worldly wisdom originating in a wicked world). There is nothing good in any worldly philosophy/wisdom. Paul said that the wisdom of this world (which would include psychology) is foolishness to God. That being the case, there is no place for worldly wisdom in the Church.

Capture this ... Chan ... biology teaches evolution should an Apostolic teacher or doctor
not study biology ????

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Chan

Psychology is a worldly philosophy. Because it is a worldly philosophy, that makes it wicked (because it is worldly wisdom originating in a wicked world). There is nothing good in any worldly philosophy/wisdom. Paul said that the wisdom of this world (which would include psychology) is foolishness to God. That being the case, there is no place for worldly wisdom in the Church.

So what about CPA's and lawyers?
Should we not hire them to help us with church matters?

[Rhoni]

For Miss Brattified: This is the quotes of RRFPRD and you tell me if you think it is personal or about the subject of studying psychology...

Probably because those folks do not get so self-involved in their threads. Not do they have the majority of posts on thier threads. Go figure...

Not unlike the majority of yours or anyone else' who have started a thread...

Take things for what they are? Who ever heard of an internet counsellor? I don't know who has the bigger issue, the counsellro or the counsellee.

Read the disclaimer on the thread...I never claimed to be the AFF counsleor...this is where you push your own agenda...

Rhoni, it is too bad you cannot find a church to let you practice your particular ministry.

The last three churches I have been a member of, including the present one...I do counsleing in...so I am not sure why you think I have no place to practice...again your own agneda to make others think a lie.

It is tto bad that some would question your ability to effectively counsel.

You know nothing of my ability to counsel! Again wanting others to believe a lie.

But don't ever forget you are the one who put out way too many personal details of your life to be taken overly seriously when it comes to counselling.

Personal details of everyone's life is posted along with pictures on the thread...shall we name names? Is there ar eason why I am singled out...maybe you have issues with me?

I am not against PROFESSIONAL counselling. I have recommended folks that I pastor to seek such. I am well aware of my deficincies

Have I ever pointed out your deficiencies? I don't know you and know nothing of your ability or lack of ability to counsel but you know so much about mine...go figure...

. But believe it or not Rhoni it is really, really hard to argue against the working of the Spirit in people's lives. If we elevate counselling above that then we have denigrated the Spirit.

This is a bold faced lie...I am all about the spirit moving in people's lives. You have told a lie about me...

And I will totally concur with CS. You cheap shot at Pastor's is standard practice.

ANOther lie

Perhaps this is due to some latent hostitlities of a past ministry that went awry?

You again have told an untruth - you know nothing of my past ministry or my present ministry!

Perhaps your aggravation with males is due to a failed relationship somewhat of your own doing?

And which relationship would that be? You trying to tell more stories?peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, aka..lies

You see, we all have problems and they can, and do, affect our judgments. Just don't be surprised when folks call your hand on them.

And you are my judge? Who died and made you God?

Now if anyone cannot see this was a personal attack then you are deluded and believe a lie!