VAUGHN MORTON Annouces his departure from the UPC~!!!!!!!

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Thad

DId yall hear that Vaugn Morton got up at his Annual convention this week (formally PSR) and announced that after Jan '08 he would no long be UPC?????
He explained why he was leaving- I heard PP was there and started weeping!!!!!!!

your thoughts if any

who is PP?

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Carp old friend, I think vaughn Morton is a little more relevant in today's UPC than Strom Thurmond.

A lot of younger men revere him and listen to him.

true, many will leave as well by his lead.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by pastorj

I'm sorry, Bro. Epley... I thought you were referring to the posts immediately proceeding yours. Again, my apologies...

I was told to check out the 'Jeffers thread' with regards to equal respect... I read the entire thread and to be honest, unless I missed something, I think more was read into a question than was meant. I could be wrong, it's been known to happen before... However, don't mistreat one man because another has shown a lack of God's love by being racist.

And FTR, I think Bro. Morton is an honorable man who believes the One God, Apostolic, Holiness message with every single bone of his body. Perhaps his mannerisms offend some, but... 'blessed are they which love my law and NOTHING shall offend them.' Can't argue with that...

James 3:2

2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body
KJV

[Hegavmelif]

Originally Posted by Dora

It's a little difficult to hold a man in high regard when that man has, for many years, been on a bitter campaign of undermining and subverting the very organization that undergirded him in time of great personal distress.

Amen, Dora! I spent a few years on the West coast (Bay Area) and so, I too, know that there is a lot of truth in your statement. We have (had) mutual friends...if you are who I think you are.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

who is PP?

I'm guessing Paul Price.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Maple Leaf

Finally, a chance to disagree with CC1.

I don't think that the exodus of the ultra con faction will produce unity in the UPC.

Today's conservatives will be the ultra cons of the new UPC.

The liberals, who want far more than television advertising, will be emboldened to ask for more.

The removal of the prohibition on television advertising leaves television a non-issue in the UPC; the remaining prohibition against TV is a technicality that I think will be disregarded.

The men who have won this allowance from the ultra cons today will find themselves defending their positions on the traditional standards tomorrow.

The political process is a two edged sword.

This will not end the war of liberation - the struggle has just begun.

We don't need prohibitions. We need what the word of God says about sin and immorality and preach it. TV is not sin or immoral. It's the content, which can be found on the Internet too.

That was the mistake IMO. They should have compromised and made a resolution allowing for the use of TV for advertisements and preaching and include a statement that we all agree that Christians should not watch unwholesome Television programming.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Dora

It's a little difficult to hold a man in high regard when that man has, for many years, been on a bitter campaign of undermining and subverting the very organization that undergirded him in time of great personal distress.

It is amazing how people bring up this card when they disagree with someone's life.

BTW, THAT very organization is nowhere near today what it was even 10 or 15 years ago.

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by anapko81

I heard him preach at JH's church in North Little Rock. The first time I heard him, his message was laced with standards and what he'd do if he saw a young boy come into his church gym with short sleeves on. He'd kick them out immediately. He seemed to preach every year there. The last time I heard him his message was fabulous! His message that night was church growth and that it WAS about numbers. Not the first mention of standards. There were many preachers on the platform that didn't look none too happy. That was a few years ago. He didn't preach there again till I think this last campmeeting. He said to the preachers that if they weren't interested in their church growing to step aside and let someone else do it! He was pumped that night. It was funny to hear that message preached at an ultra-con campmeeting.

That's the truth! It more about standards 9 times out 10.

[Jekyll]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

That's the truth! It more about standards 9 times out 10.

What's truth?? Sounded like he's moved on from there a bit...

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Carp old friend, I think vaughn Morton is a little more relevant in today's UPC than Strom Thurmond.

A lot of younger men revere him and listen to him.

I spoke to a young evangelist from his church (he dint know where I stood, sit, or stand on things. ), and he was lined up with VM repeating his comment at the time, "...If this thing passes (res 4) it will be the beginning of the end..." This is a direct quote of VM from this evang.

I am not saying he doesn't influence ANYONE, I am just saying his name doesn't carry the hammer nor the stigma with it as it once did. Same exact thing with Bro. Paul Price...hence the thrust of his letters a while back. They were meaningful to some people I am sure, but were less irrelevant to others.

BTW...I meant no dis-respect in my comparison.