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Originally Posted by Berkeley
At a simple glance, "...they understood not that he spoke to them of the Father" may look like it is in agreement with the verse that reads "...if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."
And, most "Oneness" believers that I have spoken with believe this [mis]interpretation.
Now, I am not a scholar, but I read, and had to re-read it again. I don't believe that our interpretation is correct. It now appears to me that the verse "...they understood not that he spake to them of the Father" is an explanation of the previous verse that reads "...he that sent me is true..." and "...I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him..."
Thus, the hearers of the words of Jesus did not understand that the "...he that sent me..." and "...those things wich I have heard of him..."
The "he" and the "him" that Jesus was speaking of is the Father.
That's my conclusion... I prolly lost you, and I know I never had some of you to begin with.
Blessings
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Berk, I think you are correct. We have discussed this a few times before.
To me the very defininition of "Our Father which art in Heaven" precludes the notion that Jesus is making reference to the God-man Messiah (Himself). It rather speaks of God apart from, and outside of the incarnation.
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