Are Apostolics Wise?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Partly, it infers that God does not impart the gifts with the Holy Spirit. I understand wisdom comes with time, experience, learning, etc. But, biblically, wisdom is a gift of the Holy Spirit. (previous post)

As you read the previous passages of text, we see God does impart wisdom supernaturally. If men claim to be filled with he Holy Ghost, claim to have all truth, claim to have superior understanding to salvation, why then are they so ignorant?

Jesus was 12 years old and confounded the teachers of the temple; supernatural wisdom.

I really am trying to understand why Apostolics who claim to have the fullness of God, do not have more wisdom.

So many pastors make so many mistakes and hurt the flock, situations that could have been handled with more wisdom, have destroyed people.

I didn't have to read through the whole thread to figure out where this was going; I knew when I saw the title.

But it makes responding more convenient when it finally gets spelled out in plain language.

What we have here, gentle reader, is yet another blanket accusation and broadbrush criticism of the Church, pastors, and Apostolic people in general. How quaint and how original.

If men claim to be filled with he Holy Ghost, claim to have all truth, claim to have superior understanding to salvation, why then are they so ignorant?

Anybody can claim anything. In this profound, probing and insightful question, you have postured yourself as the guy qualified to judge these imaginary, rhetorical "ignorant" men. Who are they? How do we know they are ignorant? What makes your testimony trustworthy?

Of course, there aren't any answers here. Just another salvo from the corkgun brigade, calibrated to sow a little more disdain for God's people.

I really am trying to understand why Apostolics who claim to have the fullness of God, do not have more wisdom.

So many pastors make so many mistakes and hurt the flock, situations that could have been handled with more wisdom, have destroyed people

The New Birth is the entrance to the Kingdom. It is the starter's gun, not the finish line. It is a birth, not a diploma. It is the beginning of spiritual life, not a miraculous impartation of wisdom and spiritual maturity. Those things take time and willingness to learn and grow.

Certainly there are pastors who make terrible mistakes and hurt people. There are men filling pulpits who are probably no more called to preach than Hillary Clinton.

Human nature is what it is. Flesh is what it is.

But you are barking up the wrong tree when you try to denigrate the Truth of the Apostles doctrine by pointing out that there are people who know it who aren't everything they ought to be. You are bringing your accusation from a false premise.

If salvation instantly conferred perfection, there would be no need for the Epistles. Thus your little attempt to take a shot at Apostolics and their doctrine by pointing out a lack of wisdom in some of them is all smoke.

Nice try, though, and hey...be encouraged.

There are some folks who are always looking for another reason to justify their backsliding who will nod their heads, buy into your little deal here, and think you are one more smart cookie, sticking it to "the man" once again.