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Old 12-21-2007, 09:23 PM
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I know I said I was going to bed...and I really am. LOL

But I wanted to say...I can tell you're not the kind of preacher so many here are talking about. Keep in mind...many of us here have been severely hurt by overly authoritarian preachers and pastors. If you can minister to the hurting...your ministry is cut out for you here.
Aquilla not to be unkind but most of the injured on here have injured themselves. Some may have had pastors that wounded them I don't know but from what I have seen posted here they were well capable of doing some wounding on their own. I have enjoyed the Biblical discussions here they have been hot and heavy at times. But there has been this constant decline in respect for all that is counted Holy in the Apostolic church. And I find myself getting too heated NOT at the discussions but the manner. I have prayed for most of these folks during their needs and trials. But I think maybe it is time to say goodbye? I will think about this the next few days.
Everyone have a nice a nice holiday that your conscience will allow you to have.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:26 PM
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Elder Epley if you go, I will miss you as you are a Christian gentleman.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:30 PM
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Bro. Epley, that last post was so wrong. Most have no self inflicted wounds. This is so wrong. I have wounded many myself, and recently made all right with them.

Still love ya, but strongly disagree with you on this.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:35 PM
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Bro. Epley, that last post was so wrong. Most have no self inflicted wounds. This is so wrong. I have wounded many myself, and recently made all right with them.

Still love ya, but strongly disagree with you on this.
Bro. Price I recommend you not spend alot of time on here. With your problems this is NOT a good place for you. You need to find a solid Apostolic church and submit yourself. I believe you have a good heart this is not a place for you. Please do not be insulted or offended. There is no telling where you will end up doctrinally and spiritually since you are so easily influenced. Please pray about this advise.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:39 PM
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Bro. Epley, if it was not for my brethren on here, I would have lost my mind. Sorry, but I need to stay on here. My pastor is a solid One God Apostolic that I wrongfully slandered in the past, and I apologized to. I thank God for what HE is doing in my life, and showing me what true friends are all about.

Doctrinally, this place is a hodge podge. No one has influenced me, and no one will. I am fireproof, and the flames won't ever brand me again.

Thank you for your concern, and I do appreciate it. But, what I have experienced, besides my home church, this is a great place for fun.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:40 PM
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Are we not to be imitators of Jesus? Did he not preach the Gospel of the kingdom? Did he not tell all who came to him believing, "Thy sins be forgiven thee?" You may say to all who will look to the cross beholding the resurrected Lord, "Only believe. Thy sins are forgiven thee." Are you not authrorized to go, to stand in his stead...doing and saying IN HIS NAME...in his stead?

If you think not, perhaps you need to become a believer first.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:44 PM
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Apprehended, there is a definite difference between fulfilling what Christ has called us to do, and becoming a remitter of sins. One can fulfill the Great Commission, but not be w remitter of sins. We cannot save anyone, and we only do as we have been called to do, lead them to Christ.

he alone can save, not man.
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Old 12-21-2007, 09:47 PM
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Apprehended, there is a definite difference between fulfilling what Christ has called us to do, and becoming a remitter of sins. One can fulfill the Great Commission, but not be w remitter of sins. We cannot save anyone, and we only do as we have been called to do, lead them to Christ.

he alone can save, not man.
You obviously did not read what I wrote.

Try again.
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:37 AM
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I was thinking recently about the Catholic doctrine of confession (to a priest), which we of course know is an unscriptural practice.

However, the Catholic church feels they have biblical justification for it. The scripture they use is (John 20:22-23):
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: 23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
Therefore according to this argument, Roman Catholic priests, based on the authority handed down from the apostles, have the power to remit or retain sins.

Your thoughts please... How would you respond to someone who is Catholic, and defends the practice using that particular scripture?
When we lead someone to the water to be baptized their sins are being remitted in the water. John20:23: Whosoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whosoever sins ye retain, they are retained

Acts2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR THE REMISSION of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:49 AM
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Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.
Confess your faults one to an other when you sin against that person.Math.18:[15] Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
[16] But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
[17] And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
[18] Verily I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
[19] Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
[20] For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
[21] Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
[22] Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven
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