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Originally Posted by Joseph Miller
Price,
I guess you guys know better than the Word of God. The Word says that baptism saves you and you are now saying that it is a sign of what has already happened. You guys a very brave to add to the word like that.
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The might be said of you, Joseph.
1 Peter 3:21, not says "baptism saves you" but it tells us how baptism saves us. Brother Price actually did an excellent job pointing that out.
"... not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God.
It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ ..." NIV
What Peter is emphasizing here is that you are saved by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. To ignore that is to once again remove the cross from Christianity.
Peter rather emphatically rebukes your insistence on emphasizing the physical aspect of going through the waters of baptism with his statement, "
not the removal of dirt from the body..."
Without the work that Jesus Christ has already done for you, and your faith expressed in that work, baptism is just a bath. That's what the Apostles preached.
I don't think you truly intended to take the cross out, but by hammering away at the "3 Stepper" possition without ever allowing for the "One Stepper" point of view, you end up leaving the cross out of the Gospel. We need the truth in balance.