REVEREND JOHN SUBER - Leaving Ken Phillip's PROMISELAND??????

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Originally Posted by philjones

T1,

You know I love you enough to be honest. YOU are out of line here. You are calling a first hand participant in a conversation (not hearsay) a liar. You may feel justified because you know JS better than even God but you WERE NOT a participant in this conversation so you cannot judge the veracity of the comments based solely on your uber-relationship with JS.

You owe LaGirl an apology for calling her a bald faced liar.

Now go take on the day!

Where did I call anyone a bald face liar?

I know that I have talked with JS about this very thread and this accusation concerning him "Trying to start a church is Dallas". He told me point blank on Friday that he did not try to start a church in Dallas so those saying this must be mistaken. So who is calling who a liar.

Second, LAG and AG both began to buffoon my friendship with JS...after I defended him against the attack on his character concerning his moves in ministry. They were in fact being critical of him...and it was in that spirit that the Dallas "church plant" was brought up...that is the mis-information I am referring to.

Let me explain: They are criticizing him by questioning his stability by bringing up several of his ministry locations:

"He was in Deridder...he was in bossier---He was in Bogalusa...and what about the multiple missions places...and on top of all that, He TRIED to start a church in Dallas, ALL THIS SINCE 1994"

This attack has been ignored--but not by me because this is the same thing every JS enemy has and is using against him. If I have a beef with anyone it was that right there. JS has followed the plan of God for his life. He has been more of an Apostle than this movement has seen in years. What people don't know is that most of his moves have taken place with the people understanding from the start that he was interim...his national and international ministry was never forsaken.

Besides, God blessed those people abundantly--and there was significant growth and prosperity--while JS was there.

Here's the deal, JS's ministry has been mostly as an Evangelist/Apostle. In the 21 years of our friendship he has only been at 3 churches to pastor...2 knew going in that he was a temporary placement...the other was Bogalusa (which was probably surprised by his leaving--but it was God's will for him to do so).

The missions appointments were just that...missions appointments. JS never has felt that he would be a lifer on the missions field...just temporary appointments and trips...but he loves those people in third world countries and is thankful for the opportunities presented to minister there.

But JS does feel the Pastor mantle resting upon him and is ready for the task at hand! I can actually see him going to Shreveport for life...and that is why he has taken an enormous time to pray and fast about it. Even after the church ratified him 100%...JS still took 6 weeks to give a final answer...which was not what was being reported here.

Bottom line, I am not the only one that felt JS was attacked by the words concerning his moves...and I am not the only one very close to him that has stood firm on the fact that JS DID NOT try to start a church in Dallas--he told ME so again on Friday.