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Old 01-03-2008, 12:23 PM
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The Blood of Jesus was shed when He died. Not when He was buried.
It stands to reason then that the Blood is "applied" when we die to sins at repentance. We are then baptized to separate (and remove us) from our sins, or take away (remove, wash) our sins. Look at the Tabernacle in the wilderness. The altar was where the Blood was spilled (death to sin). The Laver (water) separated sin from the Holy Place. Death, Burial, Resurrection. Repentance, baptism, Holy Ghost. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

It takes all three to complete the work of salvation just as it took death, burial and resurrection to complete the work of Salvation at the Cross.

A repented person lost because he hasn't OBEYED the Scripture? I'm driving down the road doing the posted speed limit. I'm pulled over for driving too fast in a school zone even though the school zone is 5 miles further down the road. Make sense? No. A person sincerely repents of his sins, and God witholds forgiveness until he is baptized? Until he recieves the Holy Ghost? Until he gets full understanding of the Godhead? Until he obeys the "standards"? Salvation isn't a carrot dangled just out of reach. It is a free gift of God for all who will repent of their sins. Baptism is necessary to continue in God, but, it isn't a requirement to begin in God. God will grant salvation to anyone who repents of their sins. If not, John 3:16 is a lie.

So, beat on me awhile... this old horse has been beaten enough.

this is a great post and I find a lot that i can agree with buuuuut....

John 3:16 says believe not repent.....

once again we have this strange little deal.

the bible says
believe for salvation
repent for salvation
be baptized for salvation...


we cant ignor any part can we?
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