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01-07-2008, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by keith4him
Seriously, the whole process needs to be re-vamped, in reality it comes down to the I know so and so, very intimidating for the God called, shy evanglist that has a call and anointing but has no clue about the process because no one has shown them how.
There are two opposite spectrums ends, the camp/philosophy that tells you if your called God will open doors, no calls, no networking , just pray and wait. You wait and wait, go to conferences, watch all the carnal preachers kids that you saw in Bible College fornicate and fool around, while you studied, prayed and was obedient get meetings, churches and promoted by their buddies.
(Boy keith you sound bitter, well I once was, but India took it all away)
The other end are the self promoters with their neat little Outreach.com promotions that have no idea of a gift making room for you.
I think somewhere in the middle is where it should be.
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And to this we agree... that has to be a better way to network good Evangelists into Churches. I'm of the opinion that the greatest Evangelists out there are hidden and have yet to be heard.
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01-07-2008, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Rev
Everything other than "old time" revivals needs to be done away with.
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Sounds like another thread in the making...
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01-07-2008, 10:57 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
If I know a Pastor and trust his judgment I always leave that door open for the Pastor to call me and say, "I have this Evangelist that I think would help your Church."
However, I have never... in all my years of Pastoring... had an Evangelist who called me up and said, "My name is *** and can I come preach for you?" ever come preach for me. Never.
Now, mind you, there are a few that I've heard or had recommended to me and told them, "If you're in the area give me a call." I mean that. However, a pretty sure way to never preach for me is to call me, introduce yourself and ask to come preach.
You think that's too hard? Then you've never been burned bad enough! I used to feel different but had a 'struggling Evangelist' call me and put me on a guilt trip. I used him... and he used me. Ended up trying to sell a bunch of stuff to my folks, calling them on the side without my knowledge, pressuring them into purchases of things they didn't even need.
Serious? Absolutely... he sold a DIET kit to a woman that weighed 90 pounds!
And, yes, it's the truth!
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I know my dad would go to General Conference. Because it was in Sept/Oct he would fill his entire schedule up for the next year.
The nice thing about the GC was he could find men from the same area of the country and set travel times up to be with churches in the same general area.
It saved travel costs...
He also after a few years had regular standing invites year after year.
I understand your postion.
I would be nervous as a pastor....
Nathan
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01-07-2008, 10:59 PM
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It's not easy being me.
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I think the way things are done in the day we're in now is not conducive to "old time" evangelists....
I am wary of and don't like having somebody preach that I don't already know in some manner beforehand. I would rather approach and ask them, than to have them ask me anyday....
That being said, people don't fellowship one another anymore, so nobody ever learns about who any evangelists are, and the evangelists don't get to know anybody else.... If I'm visiting a meeting somewhere and hear a good preacher, I might want to get ahold of him and invite him to preach for me too. And vice versa, the evangelist would get to meet me if I was visiting there... And some networking would go on.
I think that by and large, most people reside in their own little hole and don't know anything that's going on at the church down the road, across town, or the next town over....except for all the bad stuff that everybody gossips about...that spreads like wildfire...but the good stuff nobody talks about, and they won't associate with each other, so nobody knows anybody.
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01-07-2008, 10:59 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by keith4him
Seriously, the whole process needs to be re-vamped, in reality it comes down to the I know so and so, very intimidating for the God called, shy evanglist that has a call and anointing but has no clue about the process because no one has shown them how.
There are two opposite spectrums ends, the camp/philosophy that tells you if your called God will open doors, no calls, no networking , just pray and wait. You wait and wait, go to conferences, watch all the carnal preachers kids that you saw in Bible College fornicate and fool around, while you studied, prayed and was obedient get meetings, churches and promoted by their buddies.
(Boy keith you sound bitter, well I once was, but India took it all away)
The other end are the self promoters with their neat little Outreach.com promotions that have no idea of a gift making room for you.
I think somewhere in the middle is where it should be.
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I agree.....
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01-07-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
I confess that I saw a thread similar to this on another forum and thought I'd like to see the responses to the question from some of the AFF crowd.
Every Pastor I know has, at some time or another, had a telephone ring only to answer it and hear, "Hello! I know you may not know me but I'm Evangelist (Insert name here) and I just wanted you to know that I'm in the area with some time off and wanted to know if I could come preach for you while I'm in the area?"
QUESTION: Do you let them come or do you generally turn them down?
QUESTION: What is your philosophy of dealing with those calling wanting to preach for you?
QUESTION: Have you ever been 'burned' by someone and wished you hadn't let them come?
This ought to be interesting and I'll hold my viewpoints for a little while to see what others think...
Let's hear your answers!
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14 plus years I never did this. Too much pride to beg I think.
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01-07-2008, 11:01 PM
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Oh...and I might add, God forbid that the evangelist go visit a service that he's not preaching at just so he might meet some people on his own too....*cough*
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01-07-2008, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorD
14 plus years I never did this. Too much pride to beg I think.
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Again, we have that in common. In 8 years of full time Evangelizing I never made one call looking for a place to preach. In fact, my Pastor would have come unglued if I had as he taught us strongly against it.
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01-07-2008, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by StMark
S'fast,
CC has made it clear that he does not like Pentecostal style preaching.
Keith doesn't either. they wouldn't like your preacher Bruh
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Too late, friend... you can't teach this old dog new tricks this late in the game!
I guess it's all in what you're branded with. I cherished the times I could sit and listen to some of our premiere old black Bishops in Indiana! They preached from the heart and it connected down deep in my soul like nothing else did!
Let me see:
Morris Golder or J. Vernon McGee?
Morris Golder or J. Vernon McGee?
Morris Golder or J. Vernon McGee?
Morris Golder or J. Vernon McGee?
Give me some biblical principles with passion anyday!
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01-08-2008, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Steadfast
You serious? And, if so, please explain what you mean... examples?
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I doubt you would understand.
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