ATTENTION all ATTENTION Hogs! - Page 3

Rev · #21 01-10-2008, 01:07 PM

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I think you are right.

I actually was one of those people. Although I didn't do most of the things that I'm reading here. And I think that it comes from being rejected earlier in life by one or both parents. So, you have to have the attention of someone important to make you feel important and accepted.

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

Sorry I wasn't clear.

This part is for Steadfast:

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

AmazingGrace · #22 01-10-2008, 01:08 PM

We had one "hog" who drove us nuts continually wanting this and that and then she asked what she could do to help... I got all excited and called pastor that morning into my office and said yay I have help now! Thinking excitedly this was one of those good situations... Ok at this time I was overseeing a total remodel of a parsonage and church... trying to run the church, (as far as business wise) trying to get our cell groups going and juggle 3 groups my husband and I were teaching in our home every week and doing both choirs adult and youth and drama team and us also being youth pastors...So I gladly put this lady in charge of filing some papers I had just been brought (2 yrs worth of paperwork that had previously been stored in his home instead of the church)

Immediately after this due to some unfortunate circumstances this person was misplaced and ended up also living in my home (6 months actually) well... There was absolutely no work done... except to cook dinner 2 times a week.. the paper work was so much worse than when I began in the first place... all I could get done was follow this person around and then I had to do double duty... But the want want want never ended... It was a no win situation... She would run to the church the min the pastor drove up and start asking him what she could do and tell him about her run of the day problems... he would just say well if you want work go see T.... and well.. it was a vicious cycle that never ever ended. so it all depends on the person really and how genuine they really are

AmazingGrace · #23 01-10-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

Sorry I wasn't clear.

This part is for Steadfast:

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

Exactly!!! Someone with some higher authority within the church so that they feel that the pastor actually sent them or authorized it! Right on Bro!

dizzyde · #24 01-10-2008, 01:40 PM

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Those kind of HOGS simply have a misplaced affection. It is very easy to handle those kind of people and make them feel good about themselves at the same time. Turning that sense of affection in the right way can adavantage the work of God and make one of the finest and most faithful saints at the same time. I love those people. It is just a matter of turning them just a little.

There are other kinds of hogs though, the ones who aren't so affectionate. I know of one in our church, the only reason that I know is because I work in the church office and have been present during a lot of the incidents.

She has for several years come to the pastor after almost every service to complain about everything that she perceives to be wrong with the church, about everything from the music, to how the young people dress, to what the pastor preached, ect, ect, ect....

My pastor was very patient with her for a very long time, until several months ago I think he reached his limit. He asked her to specifically tell him scripturally what was wrong with what she was complaining about.

Her response was, "well, that's not how I was brought up and taught". He said "Sister, I love you, but you obviously aren't happy here. There are plenty of other apostolic churches in town, why don't you find one that lines up more to how you believe, and go there?" Her response, "Well, I don't like what they are doing at those churches either". LOL! He said "Exactly!"

Apprehended · #25 01-10-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rev

I think you are right.

I actually was one of those people. Although I didn't do most of the things that I'm reading here. And I think that it comes from being rejected earlier in life by one or both parents. So, you have to have the attention of someone important to make you feel important and accepted.

I also agree with another post that said give the guy something to do. It might be trivial, but it just might be enough to help him. You could also have one of your young ministers go up to him right after service and start talking. You could rotate them lol. But it has to be someone that is at least on the platform some of the time, otherwise there are not important enough in his eyes.

Yes. I agree entirely.

Another thing that needs to be considered is that these people usually love the Lord greatly. At least they are very much attracted to Him.

This hog condition often happens in someone that sees the anointing and glory on a man of God as he officiates in his office behind the sacred desk. He sees in the man the light and divine approbation on what is going on in the pulpit. He confuses the glory and graces of God with that of the man himself. Actually, if the hog really knew the person intimately, they may not like his personal characteristics at all. But, instead, they are very much in love with what he sees upon the man of God, under the graces of divine approbation while he is in the pulpit. He is confused and needs to understand the differences.

As I said before, it is a small matter of readjusting his affections in the right direction.

Apprehended · #26 01-10-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzyde

There are other kinds of hogs though, the ones who aren't so affectionate. I know of one in our church, the only reason that I know is because I work in the church office and have been present during a lot of the incidents.

She has for several years come to the pastor after almost every service to complain about everything that she perceives to be wrong with the church, about everything from the music, to how the young people dress, to what the pastor preached, ect, ect, ect....

My pastor was very patient with her for a very long time, until several months ago I think he reached his limit. He asked her to specifically tell him scripturally what was wrong with what she was complaining about.

Her response was, "well, that's not how I was brought up and taught". He said "Sister, I love you, but you obviously aren't happy here. There are plenty of other apostolic churches in town, why don't you find one that lines up more to how you believe, and go there?" Her response, "Well, I don't like what they are doing at those churches either". LOL! He said "Exactly!"

Hahaha...LOL

Oh boy! Have I see my share of THOSE kind too. I think every church has to endure a few of those from time to time. Usually, it is the sound system. You can NEVER get it right for them.

These folk really give us all a charge of DRAMA...

dizzyde · #27 01-10-2008, 01:47 PM

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Hahaha...LOL

Oh boy! Have I see my share of THOSE kind too. I think every church has to endure a few of those from time to time. Usually, it is the sound system. You can NEVER get it right for them.

These folk really give us all a charge of DRAMA...

AND a headache!!!!

AmazingGrace · #28 01-10-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

Hahaha...LOL

Oh boy! Have I see my share of THOSE kind too. I think every church has to endure a few of those from time to time. Usually, it is the sound system. You can NEVER get it right for them.

These folk really give us all a charge of DRAMA...

ROFL Oh I love those!!! We had one in La... when we got there we noticed there were no drums in the church...odd but ok... so my hubby asked the pastor why... he said well they gave sis so n so a migraine so we took em out... so she left... actually decided she would go to POA ROFL... Migraines yea... so they put the drums back in.... 4 months later... she was back... some reason POA didnt work out for her in the sound issue dept. ROFL... We are gone from that area now but I hear they have again removed the drums LOL

Apprehended · #29 01-10-2008, 01:52 PM

AmazingGrace...

There are two types of people in the world...in a general sense. First there are the givers and then there are the takers.

You are a giver. The sister was a taker. For her own sake, you ought not to let people like her take advantage of you any more than you can help it. By allowing that, you are reinforcing her dependence upon all who are around her. These kind of people are so dependent prone that they will never grow up as long as someone is willing to pander to their weakness.

She should be shown other options and shown the door.

Just my opinion.

Rev · #30 01-10-2008, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Apprehended

AmazingGrace...

There are two types of people in the world...in a general sense. First there are the givers and then there are the takers.

You are a giver. The sister was a taker. For her own sake, you ought not to let people like her take advantage of you any more than you can help it. By allowing that, you are reinforcing her dependence upon all who are around her. These kind of people are so dependent prone that they will never grow up as long as someone is willing to pander to their weakness.

She should be shown other options and shown the door.

Just my opinion.

And you could add one shoe to the deal to help her out of the door.