A lot of UPCers and conservatives feel that it's disloyal to admit that one ours could behave badly or abuse members. I've seen it first hand and it's heartbreaking. I feel badly for those who have been mistreated.
I also think it makes us look worse in the long run when we wont admit it.
On the otherhand, as a pastor's son, I've seen members make up lies to garner sympathy and create a camp against a pastor and using manipulative tactics, tithe and giving as a way to force their ideals thru.
has anyone ever heard of board ran churches?? that's a whole nother topic
as Coonskinner said in so many words, there is such as a thing as saints abuse against leadership.
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