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Old 03-12-2007, 10:40 AM
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Are we not suppose to rebuke an Elder?

If this came from someone that was seasoned, that you knew THEIR life was a living en example , then i might sit up and listen. but who is this person? what do we know about him? perhaps he has faults of his own???
I haven't seen Russell in about three years. He's about 28 yrs old and had a lot of dreams that weren't able to be accomplished. He's made mistakes in his life, but then again, haven't we all?

I wouldn't call him seasoned, nor would I say his life is a good example, however.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:41 AM
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invite him to come and discuss this with us will you ???
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:42 AM
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Tell us more.We're curious about this self appointed prophet?
I don't know what else to say that would be current info. I haven't seen him or his family in about three years.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:43 AM
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invite him to come and discuss this with us will you ???

Uh.....no.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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I haven't seen Russell in about three years. He's about 28 yrs old and had a lot of dreams that weren't able to be accomplished. He's made mistakes in his life, but then again, haven't we all?

I wouldn't call him seasoned, nor would I say his life is a good example, however.

I have no Problem with a Rebuke. sometimes I feel like we are due for some reproof in the church. I miss some of the Old men that have passed on that set us straight, but from the internet ? and a 28 yr old novice no one knows of is going going to rebuke the leadership of the UPC?
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don't be a poor sport HO
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:47 AM
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don't be a poor sport HO
Thad, I haven't had contact with these people in three years. Well, with Justin, it's been two years. Still, quite a long time.
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Old 03-12-2007, 10:48 AM
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Thad, I haven't had contact with these people in three years. Well, with Justin, it's been two years. Still, quite a long time.

IF you PM me his phone number I'll call him
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Received this in my e-mail this morningoes Anybody know who this guy is?


The word of the Lord to the Laodicean leadership
of the United Pentecostal Church International:

The stench of your sin has arose into the nostrils of Jesus,
our Great God and Savior. You who have masqueraded as shepherds,
but really are ravening wolves
that prey upon the flock of God for your own profit,
are called into account.

Woe unto you who have traded Christ's command of self-crucifixion
for Satan's whisper of self-indulgence.
You are guilty of the sin of Eve
and have eaten the forbidden fruit!

Woe unto you who have heeded the Babylon song
to lie in the harlot's lap of politics
to gain her luxuries of position
and recognition of man.
You are guilty of the sin of Sampson!
Your hair, your strength is shorn,
and you are now blind.

Woe unto you who have chosen to govern God's people
through board and business meetings, committees,
and financial accounting.
You have disregarded the heavenly authority of God's Word
and a people who pray.
You are guilty of the sin of the merchants!
You have made the house of God a den of thieves.

Woe unto you who have tolerated that Jezebel
to rule the house and church,
instead of commanding her to silence.
You are guilty of the sin of cowardice,
Ahab!
Those women, even your wives,
have become fat cows of Bashan
who refuse to wash the feet of the saints.
Rather, they lounge on couches of ease and demand more, more!
Though she be called "First Lady",
in judgement, she shall be last.

Woe unto you who refuse to "humble" yourself
to acknowledge the example of Christ
to drink wine and grow your beard.
Your self-righteousness is revealed
by your refusal to remove the haughtiness
of your fine suits, fancy shoes, ties and well-set hair
to show the world a humble Christ.
You are guilty of the sin of the Pharisees!
You have strained out a meaningless gnat,
but have swallowed the camel of the pride of life.
Your bare face is a sign of your shame!

Woe unto you who call yourselves ministers
but treat those you are supposed to serve as slaves.
You have lorded your authority over the saints
and are guilty of the sin of the Gentiles!

Woe unto you who have amassed fine houses,
lands, fine clothes, fine transportation, investments...
all earthly wealth beyond the bread of today that God has provided.
You live above those you are to serve!
You, who are to be an example of selling everything
to meet the needs of your poor brothers and sisters,
are now guilty of the sin of Judas!
You have traded the truth for silver,
therefore, you cannot say with authority
"...in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, rise up and walk".
You no longer understand that you must first
be able to confess, "silver and gold have I none...".

Woe unto you who exact a tithe of my people.
Whom I have set free to give cheerfully,
you have enslaved to the old law, anew.
You hypocrites!
The old law that you wield shall be the same law
by which you shall be judged.
You are guilty of the sin of Gehazi!
Taking advantage of the joyous souls who have met the God of Israel,
you have greedily ran after to demand payment,
when Christ has cleansed for free.

Woe unto you who proclaim yourselves preachers of righteousness,
yet, aid the people in the practices of Baal, of the calves.
Instead of separating the people from the love of wealth and decoration,
you say, "With this ring, I thee wed",
and pridefully join the hand of the bride of Christ
to the customs of the gods of idols.
You are guilty of the sin of Aaron!

Woe unto you who refuse to boldly declare righteousness
in the midst of the wickedness around you.
For your silence,
you are guilty of the sin of Eli!

Woe unto you who continue to carry the glory of God the wrong way -
stubbornly ignoring the cry of apostle and prophet
by your smug elections.
You mock the simplicity of the gospel
being carried by men called and annointed by God.
Placing the gospel on the mechanized ox-cart of man's political organization
has caused a shaking.
You are now guilty of the sin of Uzzah!
Stretching forth your hand,
you have mishandled the glory of God.
You now call the divine, heavenly, spirit
conceived flesh of Jesus earthly, human.

Woe unto you who deceive the people
with lies and earthly doctrines of men
concerning the flesh and blood of our Savior.
Loving the profit of your positions more than truth,
you have chosen to proclaim a Christ
that is earthly, corruptible, sinful in nature, and mortal like unto you.
You are guilty of the sin of Baalam
and deny the very Lord who bought you!

Woe unto you who continue to lead the grumbling
in Israel concerning the flesh,
the bread, the Word from heaven.
As in the days of the wilderness wander,
you are guilty of Israel's great sin!
Serpents are among you biting with venom of sickness and debauchery.
Confess that the Son of Man came from heaven,
or you will die in your sins.

A great divide of separation has come among God's people in the earth,
even the UPCI.
Separate yourselves from the rebellious sons of Korah,
those who mock God's annointed and disdain God's Word,
or be swallowed up by their wickedness.
He that has an ear to hear, l
et him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.

I, Russell Heibner, have written this to you in obedience to Jesus Christ
- Is. 58:1-2.





Sounds A;most Identical

To My Sermon

Of 4 Weeks Ago


And

The Only Difference Was

I Addresed The CHURCH In General

And DID NOT Call Out
The United Pentecostal Church International

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Old 03-12-2007, 10:51 AM
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Sounds A;most Identical

To My Sermon

Of 4 Weeks Ago


And

The Only Difference Was

I Addresed The CHURCH In General

And DID NOT Call Out
The United Pentecostal Church International

I




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but without calling the name out (united pentecostal), was your sermon aimed at the UPC ?
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