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Old 03-13-2007, 09:45 AM
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When a person dies, they are taken to the Resurrection. They have no conscious awareness of any passage of time.

Thus, TO US, they "sleep" but TO THEM, they immediately go to the Resurrection.

God does not inflict eternal punishment upon people BEFORE the Final Judgement.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:49 AM
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When a person dies, they are taken to the Resurrection. They have no conscious awareness of any passage of time.

Thus, TO US, they "sleep" but TO THEM, they immediately go to the Resurrection.

God does not inflict eternal punishment upon people BEFORE the Final Judgement.
I think you are wrong on that.

Remember the rich man wanted a touch of water from Lazarus.
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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That is interesting Elder.

What the story of the Rich Man & Lazarus?
Lazarus was comforted while the Rich Man was tormented.
They both didn't seem to be in soul sleep.
I have heard this taught as being correct.... against soul sleep....
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:41 AM
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Defined like this:

At death we do not go straight to Heaven and stand before Yeshua. Rather we go to the grave where we "sleep" or wait until the resurrection. Then we are raised from death and receive eternal life.

Dont know if I am up to a full debate of it right now but interested to know if anyone else believes it. Thanks
I do believe in soul sleep. My father was a big teacher of this belief back in the 1970's. I will try and find his sermon tape on it.

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Old 03-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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That is interesting Elder.

What the story of the Rich Man & Lazarus?
Lazarus was comforted while the Rich Man was tormented.
They both didn't seem to be in soul sleep.
If I can find my father's teaching's on this it may enlighten folks on the story of Lazarus and the Rich man...

He was a teacher who believed in Soul Sleep.

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Old 03-13-2007, 10:45 AM
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I think you are wrong on that.

Remember the rich man wanted a touch of water from Lazarus.
So what is the point of the Final Judgement, then?
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:50 AM
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So what is the point of the Final Judgement, then?
the Final Judgement formally handles the paperwork regarding a person's eternal reward.... in the most basic sense....
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Old 03-13-2007, 10:56 AM
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the Final Judgement formally handles the paperwork regarding a person's eternal reward.... in the most basic sense....
ROFL!!!

Funny.

Wrong, but funny nevertheless.

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Old 03-13-2007, 11:38 AM
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When a person dies, they are taken to the Resurrection. They have no conscious awareness of any passage of time.

Thus, TO US, they "sleep" but TO THEM, they immediately go to the Resurrection.

God does not inflict eternal punishment upon people BEFORE the Final Judgement.
Exactly my sentiments.
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Old 03-13-2007, 12:21 PM
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I have heard it said like this.
A man goes and commits Murder, the Police arrest him and put him in jail (Hell).
The man is held there until he is brought before the Judge.
The Judge pronounces Sentence then sends him to Prison(Lake of Fire) to serve
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