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View Poll Results: Which is worse, pre mid post or dispensationalism
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02-10-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by Hesetmefree238
And, a big Amen!
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Why the amen? Everyone knows that Christ's coming is unknown. All groups included.
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02-10-2008, 10:30 PM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
We don't know the day or hour of Jesus return but we do know the season.
Luke.21
[1] And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.
[2] And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.
[3] And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:
[4] For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.
[5] And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
[6] As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
[7] And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?
[8] And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.
[9] But when ye shall hear of wars and commotions, be not terrified: for these things must first come to pass; but the end is not by and by.
[10] Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:
[11] And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
[12] But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.
[13] And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
[14] Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
[15] For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
[16] And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
[17] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
[18] But there shall not an hair of your head perish.
[19] In your patience possess ye your souls.
[20] And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
[21] Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
[22] For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
[23] But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
[24] And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
[25] And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
[26] Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
[27] And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
[28] And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
[29] And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;
[30] When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.[31] So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
[32] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
[33] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
[34] And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.[35] For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
[36] Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
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02-11-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by Joelel
We don't know the day or hour of Jesus return but we do know the season.
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Yeah, that coming was in the generation who heard Jesus tell them about it.
He told the people YOU YOU YOU.
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Luke 21:12-28 KJV But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. (13) And it shall turn to you for a testimony. (14) Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: (15) For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist. (16) And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death. (17) And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake. (18) But there shall not an hair of your head perish. (19) In your patience possess ye your souls. (20) And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. (21) Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto. (22) For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. (23) But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. (24) And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. (25) And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; (26) Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. (27) And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. (28) And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
Luke 21:32 KJV Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
Luke 21:32 GNB "Remember that all these things will take place before the people now living have all died.
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But the coming of the Lord in the rapture of the church is in our future and no man knows when that will occur.
...my honest opinion.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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02-11-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
dont matter, just got to be ready, love that bear, mfblume, lol,dt
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02-11-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Yeah, that coming was in the generation who heard Jesus tell them about it.
He told the people YOU YOU YOU.
But the coming of the Lord in the rapture of the church is in our future and no man knows when that will occur.
...my honest opinion.
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Pretty weak Bro. All the EPISTLES also say YOU. Were THEY only for THEM? Are they NOT relevant to US?
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02-11-2008, 11:10 AM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Pretty weak Bro. All the EPISTLES also say YOU. Were THEY only for THEM? Are they NOT relevant to US?
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First to them, and then to us.... we have to understand them as they understood them to understand what was being said...
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02-11-2008, 11:16 AM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Pretty weak Bro. All the EPISTLES also say YOU. Were THEY only for THEM? Are they NOT relevant to US?
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I have to wonder when you make that statement, do you not think that the early church understood this when it was given to them?
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02-11-2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Yeah, that coming was in the generation who heard Jesus tell them about it.
He told the people YOU YOU YOU.
But the coming of the Lord in the rapture of the church is in our future and no man knows when that will occur.
...my honest opinion.
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MF,That is another one of the preterist lies,He was talking to the church and all these you's and generation is the church.
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02-11-2008, 11:25 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
Here is a article on dispensationalism.
Read it for yourself and compare it with the Bible.
http://theologicalstudies.org/dispen.html
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02-11-2008, 11:26 AM
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Re: Which is worse pre mid post or dispensationali
If Luke 21: happened back then,When did this take place ? [27] And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
[28] And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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