Later..............

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I decided to not post my response to StMatt yet. However let me say this from that post...that disrespect, mockery, sarcasm, cheap shots etc etc...went on towards ANYTHING AT ALL and not "anything apostolic"....you guys are so good at blaming someone else but in reality can't see the forest for the trees. That stuff was going on since the forum started. It went on at FCF too. Any and all of these kinds of forums are controlled explosions. The liberals got mocked and disrespected as much as the
cons.

Yes siree. And then to turn around and mock Bill ... is hilarious.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

you know, after a while of hearing people just parrot someone else you begin to wonder if there is an evil puppet master at work somewhere.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by cneasttx

You like that lol

[SDG]

Yet if this forum was going down due to disrespect and mockery...why not just ban those that did this?

There it is ... TRUTH!!!!

The spin stops here.

[OneAccord]

Iaintmovin states he is gone. That is his right and only he knows his reasons. Whatever they are, aits none of my business and I wish him Godspeed in all of his endeavors.

There has been discussions about a "subliminal" message in his announcement. I don't know about that, and this may have been brought up but... has anyone considered the title of the thread: "Later..."? As in, "See ya...."?

[tamor]

Originally Posted by OneAccord

Iaintmovin states he is gone. That is his right and only he knows his reasons. Whatever they are, aits none of my business and I wish him Godspeed in all of his endeavors.

There has been discussions about a "subliminal" message in his announcement. I don't know about that, and this may have been brought up but... has anyone considered the title of the thread: "Later..."? As in, "See ya...."?

Who woulda thunk it?.............

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Since you are going to continue to harp on this, the reason many Cons either withdrew completely, or cut down to lurking and posting every once in a while is that they grew tired of the disrespect they continually saw from a few specific posters for anything that resembles "Apostolic". This has been taking place for quite a while, and is NOT something that just happened over night. It was one reason we added the "Statement of Faith" that MOW got all upset over, turning in his keys. This worked and a few started coming around some and posting, but it was not enough, as we had those specific few on a crusade to combat any traditional views of Apostolic, whether they had anything to say or not. The lack of respect, the cheap shots, and one poster (who is back now) who does not even believe repentance is necessary to be saved, was the cause of many conservative apostolics to leave.


Of course you would not see this, because it is not from your point of view. I believe I am as balanced as anyone here, and if I am stepping down and riding into the sunset, then it is a good bet that there is something happening.

Thee IS something happening and you don't agree with it. Such is life. You have every right to do what you will with your time regarding this board.

Matt, let me state, for the record, that I did NOT get all upset about the statement of faith. I was very, very clear in stating that I was not an owner and did not put a penny into the operation budget. Therefore I did not feel like it was right for me to try put forth my opinion when the majority of the owners saw it differently. I left because I did not want to cause division. That is what I stated very clearly and others will verify that is what I said. I stated then that the diversity of viewpoints, as polarized as they were, was incapable of co-existing. What just happened proved I was correct in my assumption. I did NOT do anything behind the scenes to weaken the leadership nor did I try to gain control in any way. I told you what I thought would have to happen for the board to succeed and apparently, I was right. I am certainly not trying to tout the fact that I was right, but you brought this up, not me and I wouldn't. I did not tear this board down and was extremely cautious in anything I said.

Did I agree with what was going on? No. But I did not act like some disgruntled saint and run around trying to vindicate myself with emails and phone calls. I did not start a whiny good-by cruel world you're all going to hell in a hand-basket thread either. I know I was criticized behind the scenes. That does not bother me in the least. That is just a part of leadership and I have accepted for 25+ years.

This board does NOT need me to succeed. I am happy to be here by invitation. I didn't bust the party, I was invited to attend. I wasn't chomping at the bit to get back and NONE of your phones rang with me trying to get any of you to do anything. Please remember that.

If I needed a leadership position on this board to validate myself, then I would be one SORRY minister of the gospel. I am happy to serve but I don't need it to make me feel good. I am not accusing anyone of that either. I am only stating that it is not my reason for being here.

[bdlooney]

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[revrandy]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

Thee IS something happening and you don't agree with it. Such is life. You have every right to do what you will with your time regarding this board.

Matt, let me state, for the record, that I did NOT get all upset about the statement of faith. I was very, very clear in stating that I was not an owner and did not put a penny into the operation budget. Therefore I did not feel like it was right for me to try put forth my opinion when the majority of the owners saw it differently. I left because I did not want to cause division. That is what I stated very clearly and others will verify that is what I said. I stated then that the diversity of viewpoints, as polarized as they were, was incapable of co-existing. What just happened proved I was correct in my assumption. I did NOT do anything behind the scenes to weaken the leadership nor did I try to gain control in any way. I told you what I thought would have to happen for the board to succeed and apparently, I was right. I am certainly not trying to tout the fact that I was right, but you brought this up, not me and I wouldn't. I did not tear this board down and was extremely cautious in anything I said.

Did I agree with what was going on? No. But I did not act like some disgruntled saint and run around trying to vindicate myself with emails and phone calls. I did not start a whiny good-by cruel world you're all going to hell in a hand-basket thread either. I know I was criticized behind the scenes. That does not bother me in the least. That is just a part of leadership and I have accepted for 25+ years.

This board does NOT need me to succeed. I am happy to be here by invitation. I didn't bust the party, I was invited to attend. I wasn't chomping at the bit to get back and NONE of your phones rang with me trying to get any of you to do anything. Please remember that.

If I needed a leadership position on this board to validate myself, then I would be one SORRY minister of the gospel. I am happy to serve but I don't need it to make me feel good. I am not accusing anyone of that either. I am only stating that it is not my reason for being here.

hey MOW!! I love ya Man... just cuz we mighten disagree on a few things..Don't Mean I don't Love Ya!!

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by bdlooney

I couldn't get past the first page of this thread without already feeling sick.

I am sick and tired of the nasty spirits here!

And this is the first thread that I clicked on after a month of being gone!

I have been around AFF from just about the beginning.

It ain't what it used to be.

It is now nothing but a den of vipers that breeds hatefulness and nurtures horrible spirits.

Maybe someone should change the name to Apostate Friends Forum!!!!

Bro. Looney...

I am still here and I ain't a Viper... I might be more along the lines of a Volkswagon.. But I ain't a Viper... my Brother.. Don't paint with such a broad brush...