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Originally Posted by Mrs. LPW
I've been around a long time as well, though not as long as you. I don't get offended easily... and I'm not offended now... but it's hurtful to hear the things you've said. But, it's your right to say them... no one is debating that.
Your judgement of the men at the head of our org... is between you and God. It does hurt people who love their leadership and pray for them though.
(as I said previously... I have used the term Vatican and made jokes myself... but I'm a part of it. And I don't call down our leaders by likening them to hirelings, only interested in the money. I'd be lying if I didn't say it ticks me off when people do... especially those who are not a part of the UPCI... whether they were in the past or not.)
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I truly am sorry if you were offended by my remarks, but you can't say that folks IN the org can use them and I can't. That's just not right. In light of my UPCI roots, I have every right to express my opinion, flawed as it may be. I have NEVER made disparaging remarks toward Bro. Haney, if that is who you are referring to. In fact, I respect him and many of the other leaders highly. I also didn't make any remarks to anyone personally. I normally don't do that.
However, AE, made some observations that are worth noting and that is that there is a paradigm, a DNA, if you will in the org that seems to remove from many (certainly not all) the heart of a servant. I have seen many ascend the ladder of leadership and in many cases they exchange their towel for a sceptre or even a sword.
One of the things the org needs to do is come to some kind of consensus as to how they can better serve vis a vis the small church pastor, who makes up most of the org. Most of he influence in the UPCI, IMO, comes from the larger churches which is disproportionate to the entire fellowship. As I mentioned earlier, IMO, the org is extremely top heavy and NEEDS funds to stay that way. It is no different than any org which has gone through what the UPCI has gone through. They can change or die. Actually, they probably won't die, but they'll continue to lose influence on the "body" at large. Pastors will start to see that they can reach their cities w/o an org and do just fine. They can be ordained, be involved in missions etc all w/o an organization. The smaller an organization is, the easier it is to do what it originally intended to do.
I'm truly sorry you seem to be so "touchy" about the org, but feel free to criticize the independent Oneness churches for things which need to be brought to the forefront and I'll be the first to chime in and acknowledge the "warts." I assure you that I can "get" as good as I can "give."
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