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03-03-2008, 05:46 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Disagreeing is fine.  I do it a lot.
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03-03-2008, 06:11 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost.
...unless one is born of the water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God
You must obey the gospel to be saved, the gospel being the death , burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
That's what he mentions to be saved, why would that stop people from buying?
BTW, do you do run a radio show, publish a magazine,etc and have no expenses?
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Have you ever seen that mentioned in his Magazine?
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03-03-2008, 06:15 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Have you ever seen that mentioned in his Magazine?
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You must be one of his most faithful readers, if you know for certain that it is never mentioned.  I wouldn't have pegged you for an Endtime subscriber.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-03-2008, 07:15 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
Have you ever seen that mentioned in his Magazine?
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Statement of Faith (in every magazineI have)
We believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world,and that He will come again to establish a kingdom that shall never be destroyed(daniel 2:44). Those who are born again(John3:3-5)will have eternal life an rule as kings and priests with Christ forever.
Have you ever read his tract " Born again, Whats that?"or seen his lesson "The kingdom of God"? You can for free on his website.
I have been to several of his conferences and he always ends them with the apostolic plan of salvation. I have seen people recieve the Holy Ghost at his conferences, and I'm sure that many have been baptized that I'm not aware of. The man was a UPC pastor for over 30 years, what do you think he believes it takes to be saved?
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03-03-2008, 07:31 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
Statement of Faith (in every magazineI have)
We believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world,and that He will come again to establish a kingdom that shall never be destroyed(daniel 2:44). Those who are born again(John3:3-5)will have eternal life an rule as kings and priests with Christ forever.
Have you ever read his tract " Born again, Whats that?"or seen his lesson "The kingdom of God"? You can for free on his website.
I have been to several of his conferences and he always ends them with the apostolic plan of salvation. I have seen people recieve the Holy Ghost at his conferences, and I'm sure that many have been baptized that I'm not aware of. The man was a UPC pastor for over 30 years, what do you think he believes it takes to be saved?
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I think Revelationist knows what Baxter believes, but is questioning why Baxter will not put Acts 2:38 in his magazine statement of faith. We all know that Acts 2:38 is unpopular.
I think Revelationist is wondering if Bro Baxter is concerned over loss of sales if he should put that salvation is in Acts 2:38, instead of John 3:3-5, in knowing popular opinion is against Acts 2:38 being the born again experience. All who read John 3:3-5 is being born again would not argue. But if they read Acts 2:38, there would be BIG problems!
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03-03-2008, 08:03 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Arphaxad
Statement of Faith (in every magazineI have)
We believe that the Bible is the inspired word of God, that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world,and that He will come again to establish a kingdom that shall never be destroyed(daniel 2:44). Those who are born again(John3:3-5)will have eternal life an rule as kings and priests with Christ forever.
Have you ever read his tract " Born again, Whats that?"or seen his lesson "The kingdom of God"? You can for free on his website.
I have been to several of his conferences and he always ends them with the apostolic plan of salvation. I have seen people recieve the Holy Ghost at his conferences, and I'm sure that many have been baptized that I'm not aware of. The man was a UPC pastor for over 30 years, what do you think he believes it takes to be saved?
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I don't doubt that Baxtor has some great tracts... but I'm asking about why this information is not incorperated into his Magazine?
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03-03-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by QueenEsther
More likely because they want people to buy them so that they can be informed so they are price cutting to make them more affordable......................negative negative negative!!!!
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And so unnecessarily so.
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
$$$$ it's all about $$$... ask him why he never mentions how to be saved? Many that buy would stop buying if he did....
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Its all about money? Do you know this man's heart, to make such a statement? Thats an extremely judgmental remark. I find it repulsive, and I'm not even a fan of Irving Baxter.
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
I don't doubt that Baxtor has some great tracts... but I'm asking about why this information is not incorporated into his Magazine?
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Perhaps he feels he will reach a broader cross section of people if he leaves out the specifics of salvation in his magazine/website. For the record, in his magazines (and also on his website) he always lists his schedule of his upcoming events and appearances. Many/most of them are clearly described as being at apostolic, or UPC churches. Its not like he's trying to hide the fact that he's a Oneness pentecostal who believes in Acts 2:38 salvation.
Not that I agree with that approach... Some (like me) might feel he should put his beliefs more "out there" than he does. But I wouldn't accuse the man of being being motivated by money. That is a very harsh accusation which you simply cannot prove.
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03-03-2008, 09:37 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
I don't doubt that Baxtor has some great tracts... but I'm asking about why this information is not incorperated into his Magazine?
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i think his magazine is geared towards those who have been through his lessons and/or are already saved, and have some knowledge about what he teaches. I mean if I went up to someone and said " Hey, I hear theres a red heiffer in Isreal'' most people wether saved or not would be like "huh, so what."
Actually it might be kind of interessting to see the breakdown of what % of the readers are that are this, that, or the other thing.
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03-04-2008, 06:07 AM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
With all due respect. . . .
I have known Irvin Baxter for over 40 years.
If you question his integrity and commitment to the Apostolic, Acts 2:38 message….
If you think he is all about money….
You simply DO NOT KNOW the man.
You have no idea the sacrifice he has made for the Kingdom.
You do not have a clue.
Agree or disagree with his views on prophecy. . . .
His ministry is totally about people hearing, accepting and experiencing Act 2:38.
This is NOT an opinion…
…It’s a fact.
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03-04-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: Irvin Baxter On Daystar
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
$$$$ it's all about $$$... ask him why he never mentions how to be saved? Many that buy would stop buying if he did....
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Do you know how many have been saved from his ministry???? THOUSANDS!!! THey have people there who will talk to you over the phone about it and who hook people up with local UPC churches - that is their full time job!!!!! If you guys only knew!
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