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Originally Posted by stmatthew
So the thread in "The Tab" was correct, and CeCe will be singing at a homosexual church, and you are going to be there too.
okay-dokay
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Hello Matthew and Greetings in Jesus Name!
I think it is so childish and extremely spiritually immature of those who try to run everyone else's lives - without the FACTS! The Control Freaks still try to control! Nothing has changed!
1. Victory is not a "homosexual church". It is a very large (several thousand) church that does not turn away nor degrade people that struggle in life. It is basically a baptist church and many members are filled with the Holy Ghost.
2. As far as I know- Cece is not scheduled to sing there and if she was - I would go to hear her at Victory, but I would not go to a "homosexual church" to hear anybody!
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With all due respect, Bishop, I think your assessment of Victory Church is somewhat of a "sugar coated" description to say the least.
Indeed, Victory Church is not a "gay church" per se, but is a church that preaches acceptance of gay men and lesbians.
Theres a big difference between a church "
not turning away or degrading people that struggle in life" ... and a church that teaches acceptance of homosexuals as part of the church body with no need to repent or change.
From how I see it, its one thing for someone to be formerly gay, know its wrong, and perhaps be stuggling to put aside his homosexual inclinations. That would be "stuggling" with the issue. Its another thing to declare oneself a "gay Christian" and feel that gay sex is not a sin, etc. That isn't struggle. That is just delusion, and rebellion against the Word of God.
In particular, Kenneth Samuels, (pastor of Victory Church) is a known and outspoken advocate of accepting so called "gay Christians" (or "
same-gender loving persons" as he at times calls them). He doesnt preach/teach that homosexuality is a sin. He preaches acceptance of homosexuals as they are, with no need for them to change their lifestyle.
Lets look at the bottom line here. Victory Church doesn't simply "
not turn away those who struggle" with homosexuality. They practically embrace and encourage those who are in that lifestyle, to come to their church (with their gay lovers if possible) and feel accepted in the body of Christ. And "Pastor" Kenneth L Samuels has been known to employ some of the same "gay theology" arguments that have been used by the gay church movement for decades. That is deception and perversion, plain and simple.
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