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03-07-2008, 10:48 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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Originally Posted by COOPER
Two great post!
I have to admit that I automatically trust the position of a Pastor or police officer....
But I have to remind my self they are just men.
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You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!
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03-07-2008, 10:54 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
I try to approach those in ministry with respect and admiration until proven otherwise. However I do not blindly trust any human being nor do I think God expects us to. People that do that sometime end up in far off African countries drinking Kool Aid laced with poison!
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How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!
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03-07-2008, 11:02 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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How true and sad! I myself have been there too! I trusted preachers all my life and then we were really hurt by a pastor.... It was crazy and in my hurt I put all preachers into one category and thought that if this one man that I trusted did this, then others will also.... God really worked me over because my attitude was not right! God restored my faith in preachers.... Now I just don't put them on a pedestal. I do remember that they too, make mistakes...... Some mistakes I over look, some I just cannot over look!
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Many many years ago my mother was betrayed by a preacher she had counseled with as things she had told him in private made their way around the church. I don't think she ever got over it even though the pastor that suceeded that one was a wonderful man that she loved and did trust.
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03-07-2008, 11:10 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
To answer the original question.... NO
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03-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
To answer the question...absolutely, unqualified YES! If the man is a preacher he MUST be honest and good. I just hand over my wallet and my brain and sit down and await my orders like all good saints should do.
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03-07-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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You have hit upon an important thought. People need to find that place where they respect and trust the office of Pastor but not blindly.
Some people, especially those who have been "burned" by a bad apples in the past, tend to get cynical and look at all preachers with distrust and cynicism. That is just as wrong as the actions of a bad preacher himself.
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This is true. I struggle with this myself. I've been burned by three different pastors. My current pastor is a good man and affirms me left and right. But I find it difficult to trust him and I'm waiting for the other foot to fall.
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03-07-2008, 11:41 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
Absolutely not! I used to and got burned. I liken it to a story about a wolf in sheeps clothing. Gotta make sure a sheep is a sheep and not sheepish-wolf.
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03-07-2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
I do want to say here for all you preachers out there that are doing your best to serve God, THANK YOU! I appreciate your time and effort that you put into God's kingdom... Where it seems like many have no respect and look for threads to jump in a bash the preacher, I want you to know you have respect!!!!! While I do not believe that all preachers are real men of God, I do have the upmost respect to the true men of God...
I heard an old timer say once, "Some are called, some are sent, and some just packed up and went"..... that about sums it up!!! LOL
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03-07-2008, 12:02 PM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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Do you automatically trust a man that is a Preacher or Pastor?
Jesus said beware of False prophets...
Do not trust any one just because he is a "Man Of God" .
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No. First of all there is no office in the bible called Preacher. A preacher was someone that proclaimed the gospel and they did that out on the streets, not before a pulpit where the so called sheeple are bringing in the sinners....a preacher went OUT to where the sinners were at on the street and told them about Jesus.
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03-07-2008, 12:24 PM
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Re: Do you automatically trust a man called Preach
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
If he's Apostolic, i'll trust him until he gives me reason not to.
Why not give him the benefit of the doubt?
If he's not apostolic...well, that's another story. Even more so if he doesnt even have the Holy Ghost.
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Because someone is OP or not OP does not make them trustworthy. Infact, I know some OP's that are WAY less trustworthy than non-OP's. I am not speaking for all but for some I know. Also having the HG does not automatically make someone trustworthy either side they are on. I start by trusting the mans word, if he breaks it he ain't worth his salt. That goes for any denomination.
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