Apostolic Revival - Page 2

Jason B · #11 03-07-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

The bold part-is how many see it accept that most men/women only unify with people that believe exactly the same as them.

The statement is largly true, but as Sam said the upc has plenty of divestity. Yet why they/we (I'm in UPC) don't stretch this tolerance beyond three letters of an acronym i don't know.

Sam · #12 03-07-2008, 09:00 PM

Don't ya'll realize the UPC is the only true church?

It's found in the Bible, Acts chapter 2, plain as can be for all who want to see.

In verse one it says that they were all with one accord (that's United) on the day of Pentecost (that's Pentecostal) and then in verse 47 it talks about God adding to the church (so there we find the church). See, Acts chapter 2 we find the United Pentecostal Church, and don't you forget it.

Remember at General Conference when we would all stand and sing together

The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
God's only got one Church
it's United Pentecost.
The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
No, I don't want to be lost.

RandyWayne · #13 03-07-2008, 09:12 PM

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The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
God's only got one Church
it's United Pentecost.
The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
No, I don't want to be lost.

Now you need to add a verse for the ladies about not bobbing their hair.

Jason B · #14 03-07-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Not ignorance, brother, but perhaps idealism and naivete. We've all had those "cant we all just get along?" thoughts before. But realistically, the unity you're thinking of will probably never happen.

The walls between the apostolic groups are so firmly and deeply entrenched, that it would take a mighty move of God to bring them down... and I'm just not really expecting that to happen.

I agree with you to a point, i don't see this happening real soon, but i do believe it is going to happen somehow. I do believe that God is going to unify his church in a unity of the spirit in the last days.

Perhaps I have spent to much time thinking about it, but I am not suggesting doing away with orginzations in favor of one unified body, although that would be ideal, tht would really have to be God. I am wondering allowed why the current orginazations and fellowships can't keep their cards, structure an officers, yet have fellowship and other co-operation with other oneness bodies. For example I spoke with JL Hall one time about the ALJC, and he said that at one time there were discussions of the ALJC joining the UPC. When those discussion broke down on basis of the adam doctrine, UPC basically has nothing to do with ALJC. I don't understand why the cant get together and say (I'll use USA as example, because I am not familiar enough with cities in other countries) "okay, we already have 3 upc missionaries in dallas, and PAW has 2 missionaries, so we have that field covered, lets send the next missionary to Fort Worth. It's not as big as Dallas, but the potentiel for a great church is there. What we currently have is every organization wants to have a missionary in a major/capital city. So we have who knows how many missionaries in say Mexico City, but yet several (as my understanding is) large cities in mexio have no missionary. How does this make good sense? I'm not saying 1 missionary per city, that is foolish for a large city, but I'm saying, until we spread out our growth will be limited. I'm not concerned with growth, but how to spread the gospel. As Jesus said,( i paraphrase) "this gospel shall be preached in the whole earth, THEN shall the end come."

Even if our current generation doesn't understand the importance of this, the younger gereation is seeing how we are hampered by being more and more sectarian. hopefully we will attain a unity of the Spirit in the years to come.

I've got a feeling when the antichrist is in power if we are shipped off to be put to death, we are not going to be asking the person next to us "do you have a tv? or "do you trim your hair?" The time we waste, now is the day!

Cindy · #15 03-07-2008, 09:24 PM

What are the ones complaining about the UPC doing to invite UPC to fellowship instead of blaming them as the only reason apostolics cannot be united.

TRFrance · #16 03-08-2008, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

What are the ones complaining about the UPC doing to invite UPC to fellowship instead of blaming them as the only reason apostolics cannot be united.

So true.
And there are some on this forum who seem to take every opportunity they can to "get their digs in" at the UPC, even when its not even called for.

I find it kinda pathetic, actually.

robert · #17 03-08-2008, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Don't ya'll realize the UPC is the only true church?

It's found in the Bible, Acts chapter 2, plain as can be for all who want to see.

In verse one it says that they were all with one accord (that's United) on the day of Pentecost (that's Pentecostal) and then in verse 47 it talks about God adding to the church (so there we find the church). See, Acts chapter 2 we find the United Pentecostal Church, and don't you forget it.

Remember at General Conference when we would all stand and sing together

The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
God's only got one Church
it's United Pentecost.
The reason I'm in this Church
is I don't want to be lost.
No, I don't want to be lost.

There is only One church...that church consist of people who follow and live God's word. Not everyone in the world will have a United Pentecostal Church in their area to attend. We can recieve a Bible and recieve God's Spirit...because Nothing is impossible for God. This thought that only one organization can be right is WRONG. It appears from what I've seen at the AFF that one mind and one accord is not required to be saved. We should be uniting but not to form one organization but one mind and one accord...then we can see the Acts chapter 2 Revival.

chseeads · #18 03-08-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

There is an organization called the UACoJC (United Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ). It is a small organization but has several churches in Indiana and some others in other states. They have monthly fellowship meetings in Indiana. I've never been to any but keep thinking I'll get there some time to one that is close to where I live in Ohio. It is my understanding that these fellowship meetings are attended by folks who are not in the UACoJC. Bishop Howard of New Castle, IN was part of the group who created this organization. He used to have fellowship meetings that were not limited to any specific organization.

The website for the UACoJC is
http://uac-jc.org/home.php

Most people that go are from the UACJC churches, but it's open to anybody....which as far as that goes, so are UPC and etc. rallies. A lot of times only birds with the same-colored feathers will flock together though....

StillStanding · #19 03-08-2008, 07:22 AM

For the record, I'm fer Apostolic Unity!

The problem starts because the conservative branch will feel like they're COMPROMISING to associate themselves with liberals and moderates. Those libs might as well be Trinnies as far as they're concerned!

Apostolics tend to look at the small picture with tunnel vision, instead of the big picture. IMHO

OneAccord · #20 03-08-2008, 07:23 AM

Jason-

In the Deep Waters section, you'll find a thread about The Unity of the Faith. I posted a 4 part series about UNity- Its pretty long, but it details my views about the subject.

I believe a revival of restoration (i'll call it) is coming to God's people. A Revival of Unity that will transcend organizations. I don't know how, and don't know when, but its imperative for our survival as a people of faith.

Unity is a subject that doesn't get much attention.